Turtle Wax ICE on new truck?

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moto

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We have a 07 Chevy Silverado... black.



Its less than 3 months old, is ICE ok to use on it? Its a synethetic paste polish it says.



I just thought it might make the shine more than it already is.
 
If you are going to use an "over the counter" product, I would suggest using Duragloss 111 or Meguiars NXT. The 111 being my first choice. Do a search on DG and you will look long and hard to find many complaints.
 
Ice has a nice look to it...BUT the durability is very bad...its not a long lasting product....



For the price of the ICE you can get better....OTC....like the duragloss 105 and the bonding agent 601..or the new 3M sealant from Napa...this stuff looks real nice and seems to be holding up nice on a friends Solstice for 2 months now and still going strong....I may try this one my self.....



The 3M product is called performance finish....it has a real nice look to it on good preped paint



AL
 
moto said:
We have a 07 Chevy Silverado... black.



Its less than 3 months old, is ICE ok to use on it? Its a synethetic paste polish it says.



I just thought it might make the shine more than it already is.
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I got back into detailing when I bought a new vehicle in June. My first move was to hit the local stores to see what was available and I found TW ICE - so I used it. No regrets - it is incredibly easy to work with, provides a great shine, and beads nicely. It also works well on trim/tires, interior surfaces like dash and trim, and cleaned old wax of the outside trim of one of my older cars. The downsides are that it seemed to attract dirt more than other sealants and didn't have good durability.



After that experience, I discovered Autopia and have moved on to using other products recommended here - Duragloss and Ultima primarily. ICE has been relegated to trim and tires until it is gone then I probably won't buy it any more. The only reason I might consider buying it again is if I can't find another product that cleans trim easily, otherwise, I found products that work better for me with DG and Ultima.



No damage, permanent or otherwise from the ICE or the ICE applicator that I can tell. I stopped using the applicator on my paint once I started using it on my tires since I wasn't sure I could get all the tire grit out of it.



RG
 
Well i was just wondering if you should wait so long with a new vehicle before polishing it with the ICE stuff... any more inputs?
 
ICE polish isn't a polish in the way we normally think of a polish. It won't abrade your paint if that's what you're concerned about.



If you're concerned about the paint not being fully cured yet then that's no concern either since it was baked at the factory.
 
Well one thing, the right side of the tailgate was recently painted (like 1-2 weeks ago) because someone made a dent in the truck (still havnt found them, lol). So should I wait a while for this new paint to "settle in".



Sorry if I seem over cautions, its just my nature.
 
I think it's the nature of a lot of people who would post on a forum called, "autopia" to be a little overly cautious about their cars.



If it's new paint that's not from the factory, you should wait 60 to 90 days for the paint to fully cure before you cover it with something. Sealing it off would compromise the strength of the paint.



This happened to a new car? Bummer. I know how you feel, man. My little tC was a month old when some guy sandwiched me between his Tacoma and an Audi in front.
 
moto said:
Well one thing, the right side of the tailgate was recently painted (like 1-2 weeks ago) because someone made a dent in the truck (still havnt found them, lol). So should I wait a while for this new paint to "settle in".
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I only read that it was a new vehicle, not that you had a repaint only 1-2 weeks ago. Any area that was repainted should wait to fully cure before applying a sealant or wax.
 
Thanks, wow thats a long time lol... but oh well I will wait.



What is sealing? Polishing?



And is there a huge diff in wax/polish?
 
moto said:
Thanks, wow thats a long time lol... but oh well I will wait.



What is sealing? Polishing?



And is there a huge diff in wax/polish?
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You really should read the guide to detailing on here, this website will change the way you see your car's paint forever.



Example: look at you black truck in the sun, look where the reflection of the sun is in the paint, see all those spider web looking things? Ugly aren't they, those are swirls, from the dealer washing your car the wrong way!
 
VTechFan02 said:
From what I've read, new paint should cure a minimum of 1 month. I would personally wait 2-3 before sealing/waxing.



-Frank
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Most people don't even think about how long the car has been sitting on the lot or on a freakin boat.



Don't put on "ice" You should buy a high quality paint sealant such as "klasse" and be done with it. Don't even bother going OTC, theres no point if you've got a paypal account and a bit of patience.
 
Most sealants don't go for under 20 bucks. It's only a 5 dollar leap from the 15 dollar ICE to the next sealant but with the added hassle of shipping (not to mention S&H costs) it's a little bit much when one would rather just pick up something while shopping for a couple of home improvement tid bits.



Besides, for the price, I've found one would be VERY hard pressed to beat Duragloss, an OTC brand.



Anyway, moto, a wax and a polish and a sealant are all very different things depending on what company you talk to. What is normally accepted at Autopia is thus:

Wax: a carnauba based protectant for your car

Sealant:a synthetic, polymer based protectant for your car

Polish: something that cleans the paint, either as an abrasive or a strong solvent



That's what's generally accepted around here but you need to work through the product descriptions from manufacturers to determine what they really are. For example, ICE Polish is basically a sealant since it's a synthetic formulation made to protect your car's finish. Stuff from Duragloss is mostly called polishes too and they're all sealants as well (except maybe their paste.. I don't know if that is a wax or not.)



I'd be surprised if you're not exactly overwhelmed by the words and the options but if you stick to it for a little bit it'll all clear up, even the ridiculous acronyms.
 
phamkl said:
Most sealants don't go for under 20 bucks. It's only a 5 dollar leap from the 15 dollar ICE to the next sealant but with the added hassle of shipping (not to mention S&H costs) it's a little bit much when one would rather just pick up something while shopping for a couple of home improvement tid bits.



Besides, for the price, I've found one would be VERY hard pressed to beat Duragloss, an OTC brand.



Anyway, moto, a wax and a polish and a sealant are all very different things depending on what company you talk to. What is normally accepted at Autopia is thus:

Wax: a carnauba based protectant for your car

Sealant:a synthetic, polymer based protectant for your car

Polish: something that cleans the paint, either as an abrasive or a strong solvent



That's what's generally accepted around here but you need to work through the product descriptions from manufacturers to determine what they really are. For example, ICE Polish is basically a sealant since it's a synthetic formulation made to protect your car's finish. Stuff from Duragloss is mostly called polishes too and they're all sealants as well (except maybe their paste.. I don't know if that is a wax or not.)



I'd be surprised if you're not exactly overwhelmed by the words and the options but if you stick to it for a little bit it'll all clear up, even the ridiculous acronyms.
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One thing that I must correct you on is that a "polish" generally has three applications, many of which are overlapping. Many products that are single step cleaner, polish, glaze, wax are often mis-advertised as a polish. Polish is probably the most misused term in our field.

1Abrasve

2Cleaning, either strong solvent, or quite gentle

3Also, paint feeding such as a glaze with cleaner can be labeled a polish - which is one example of an overlapping application. Heck, there are plenty of variations, and many that include all three.



Multi-use products never bear the same results, but will be easier for someone to understand who is not an enthusiast.



My opinion still stands, go pay more for a good sealant. It will last the longest and shine beautifully. More so than anything at the auto parts store. Quite honestly you will know immediately that it's worth the money.
 
Thanks for the info. So the stuff you guys use you have to order?



I'm fine with that.



Also, those spider web things you said you look in the sun? Id very much like to get rid of those, lol. I thought they were just a ton of little scratches which is what they look like...
 
moto said:
Well one thing, the right side of the tailgate was recently painted (like 1-2 weeks ago) because someone made a dent in the truck (still havnt found them, lol). So should I wait a while for this new paint to "settle in".



Sorry if I seem over cautions, its just my nature.
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A good rule of thumb, for newly painted surfaces, is to wait 30-90 days. These times differ depending upon which paint is used as well as the curing process. As hard as it is to wait...I would hold out for the 90 days just to be on the safe side.
 
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