Topping Meg's 151 Reconditioning Cream

Bert

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I have a quick and easy detail coming up.  The owner only wants (and is only willing to pay for) a one step to shine the car up and improve swirling as best as possible but swirl elimination is not expected at all.  So I was thinking of using Megs 151.  After claying it will clean, polish and protect all together.  After coming to this conclusion, he sent  follow up message asking if I could use the longest lasting protection I have available.  My original thought was, so much for 151 however, I have a tin of Meguiars #16 (I think that is what the wax Meguiars had to discontinue for EPA reasons is called).  #16 is a nice long lasting wax.  Would topping 151 with it work out or would 151's lack of durability degrade #16s durability?


 


Thank you.
 
Can't speak for that but on my personal DD that sits out side always was polished with d151 a d topped with OptiSeal. It's going strong at 4month's

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bert31 said:
<ul>[*]he owner only wants (and is only willing to pay for) a one step to shine the car up and improve swirling as best as possible but swirl elimination is not expected at all 
[*]he sent  follow up message asking if I could use the longest lasting protection I have available
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Bert, you may want to take a step back and examine the request.  Is this person a close personal friend?  If he is looking for a quickie, the M151 is solid strategy.  If he is looking for "long lasting" protection, do you need to revise your thought process (pricing) with him?


 


I've found M151 to be quite a good product  - - probably worth 8 - 10 weeks.
 
Thanks for the info. Does D151 need to sit and bond for a while or go ahead and apply the wax afterwards?
 
If the person you are doing this one-step for wants long-lasting protection, then a one-step is not the method to attain that objective. You will need to apply a LSP (Last Step Product) like Collinite 845 Insulator wax (liquid) or 476S Double Wax (paste). I would prefer the 476S, but it's a little more finicky to remove than the 845, but it last longer than 845 IMO.


The Megs #16 Paste Wax is great for depth of shine/reflectivity on dark colors, but it's not the longest lasting wax.


 


Here's another tip: if you live near a boating/marine supply store you can probably purchase Collinite waxes over-the-counter. The 845 equivalent is sold as 925 Fiberglass Boat wax and the 476S equivalent is sold as 885 Fleet wax. How do I know? Check out the MSDS (Material safety data sheet) required by the federal government OHSA (Occupational Heath and Safety Administration) regulations for their chemical products produced and sold to the public on the Collinite web site. You'll see the 476S/885 and 845/925 on the same sheet, indicating they are the same product sold under two different labels.


 


How old is your tin that you have of #16? The older it gets, the more the VOC's (volatile organic compounds, which have since been banned from production and, hence, its sales) evaporate, leaving a much harder and more difficult wax to apply,especially if it's stored in a garage or shed that heats up in the summer. This is why some detailers store their (expensive) carnauba waxes in refrigerators or cool areas.


 


On a related note: how does D151 Reconditioning cream compare with M66 Professional Quick Detailer?? I have used their consumer-version, Color-X, as a one-step-on-steroids cleaner wax. It was much better than M04 Cleaner Wax for cleaning and correcting neglected vehicle paint surfaces, but not-so-great for durability.
 
D151 will last 2-3 months and yes you need to let it dry to a haze before removal so it bonds properly. D151 has great cut for an AIO and will polish out swirls and scratches nicely. What I like to do is remove it with D156, so after 151 dries to a haze and I buff off I spritz the panel with 156 for the final buff and a boost in protection.
 
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