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I was at the mall the other day, and they have a new 'rice-boy' import shop actually in the mall. Mostly altezzas, huge spoilers and fake HIDs, stuff like that-very few performance parts. I noticed a small display of waxes and saw that they had a QD, and since I was nearly out of Meguiars #34, I figured for $11 for a 32 oz bottle, I couldn't go wrong. I was right! The stuff is really good. Leaves a real slick surface and is great at removing fingerprints, minor sap and bird poop. It works best in the shade, if you use it in the sun, you may get some minor streaking-but just spray on a little bit and wipe immediately, and it is streak free.



The stuff is called 'Quik Shine' made by a company called ClearKote out of Houston, TX. There is no address on the bottle, just a number (281) 429-2727. I am going to call on Monday and see about availability outside of Texas and if they sell it in gallon sizes.
 
they ship it! cool!! you can even order online, which is better yet!!



so this is good stuff, eh? how do you think it would work as an alternative to Z6??
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Clean Dean [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I found the website...

http://www.clearkote.com/quikshin.html

Looks interesting. [/b]</blockquote>
:bow Nice work, Dean. I didn't finish working this afternoon until after 5 pm, so when I called the number, all I got was an answering machine.

I think their entire line-up is available at the ricer shop at the mall, so I will try to get by this week to check out the Moose Wax and see how that works out. I like how they let you know if their are silicones in each of the products.

In any event, I need to have a good cleaner wax for those who only want 1 step exterior details (even though I explain the advantages of a 2 or 3 step process) so they can save some money. It's worth checking out, at least.
 
Why bother with the Moose Wax? It's no cheaper than AIO, and it says to reapply to the Moose Wax every 90 days.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by RH [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Why bother with the Moose Wax? It's no cheaper than AIO, and it says to reapply to the Moose Wax every 90 days. [/b]</blockquote>
What do you mean 'why bother'? Why not try new products? So what if you have to apply it every 90 days. Most of my customers are really good about having their cars waxed every 3 months and if the wax has a good shine, they will be happy. Besides, the mall I can buy it at is only 5 miles from where I live.
 
What I meant with "why bother" was why use a product that only rates itself at 90 days when there are proven good products that rate themselves for twice as long? But I guess if you make $ by applying wax, it makes sense to use one that wears out faster. You should really try Meguiars Gold Class - it has one of the best shines out there, and wears out VERY quickly. You'd make a fortune.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by RH [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>What I meant with "why bother" was why use a product that only rates itself at 90 days when there are proven good products that rate themselves for twice as long? But I guess if you make $ by applying wax, it makes sense to use one that wears out faster. You should really try Meguiars Gold Class - it has one of the best shines out there, and wears out VERY quickly. You'd make a fortune. [/b]</blockquote>
gold class is practically an every-other-week wax. No way are customers going to come back every couple weeks. He would make a fortune at first, but then people would realize he's shafting them. not smart. :xyxthumbs
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by RH [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>What I meant with "why bother" was why use a product that only rates itself at 90 days when there are proven good products that rate themselves for twice as long? But I guess if you make $ by applying wax, it makes sense to use one that wears out faster. You should really try Meguiars Gold Class - it has one of the best shines out there, and wears out VERY quickly. You'd make a fortune. [/b]</blockquote>
What is with the sarcasm? Upset that I am not using the product you recommend? You should know that durability is just a guideline, not a rule. Besides, when my customers are good about getting their cars waxed every three months anyway, why in the world would I cut my own throat by using something that they would only need twice a year? Besides, if the paint is waxed with either a 1 step cleaner/wax or a 2 step process (polish and wax) 4 times a year, the paint will more than likely look better than the car waxed twice a year, even if the twice a year wax lasts longer, since the paint will have been polished 4 times instead of twice.
 
Scottwax,



Have you ever tried the cleaner wax made by Mother's? I have a small 4 oz. sample that came with their claybar which I tried on a friend's car. That stuff dries very fast and buffs out easier than anything else I've ever tried (It felt like I was buffing Paste Glaze). There's absolutely no smearing or streaking whatsoever. That would be MY great new product (to be used on friends' cars) found by accident. :up
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Intermezzo [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Scottwax,

Have you ever tried the cleaner wax made by Mother's? I have a small 4 oz. sample that came with their claybar which I tried on a friend's car. That stuff dries very fast and buffs out easier than anything else I've ever tried (It felt like I was buffing Paste Glaze). There's absolutely no smearing or streaking whatsoever. That would be MY great new product (to be used on friends' cars) found by accident. :up [/b]</blockquote>
what kind of durability are you gettin with that?? I've only used it in door jambs and after rain it only beads for a month to month and a half tops. This consistent with your durability results?? :nixweiss
 
SLP,



Well, it's only been a few weeks since I've used it, but I also added a coat of Soveran on top of it. I haven't seen my friend's car since working on it, but according to her, the car is looking good. I'm not sure what her standard of 'looking good' is, but I'll be working on it again in a few weeks and will probably have a better idea then.



It sounds like its durability is pretty poor, which is not surprising considering how easily the stuff buffs out. I guess the main thing I was thinking about when calling it my great new product discovery was the ease in which the stuff buffed out. I'm sure using Klasse AIO as the base for Souveran would work better. I only brought it up because of Scottwax's interest in Moose Wax.
 
I'm not trying to fan the flames here by any means, but a quick thought pops to mind re: Souveran on top of the other wax...



How can we make honest assessments of products when we're always "topping" them? It boggles me that we report on the performance of a product with the preface of, "I topped it with XYZ, and ...."



Just my .02 after a long day...again...
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Scottwax [/i]
<strong class='bbc'> What is with the sarcasm? [/b]</blockquote>
Scott,
Please dont interpret as sarcasm, I didnt mean it that way. I was really just trying to figure the business sense of it all. First, I thought maybe you were trying to save some $ but I saw that it was approx the same cost as AIO. But then I see it's durability is only 3 months, so maybe I figure you're trying to make $, so I suggest using a good product that doesnt last very long. I really dont care what you use. So back to the business sense of it, I'm confused mostly because there are tons of waxes in the 3 month category that are 1/4 the cost. I just dont understand experimenting with relatively unknown expensive waxes. Cheaper wax I could understand..more profit.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by geekysteve [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>It boggles me that we report on the performance of a product with the preface of, "I topped it with XYZ, and ...."[/b]</blockquote>
Steve my friend, are you dismissing all the great reviews of Klasse SG that happened to be topped with a carnauba? Heck, what about your P21S PCL review that's topped with carnuaba? Isn't the Mothers cleaner wax a 'paint cleanser' as well?

When I saw the bottle, I just dismissed it as another OTC cleaner wax that smears and isn't much fun to use. But when I tried it, the stuff dried very fast and the ease with which it buffs out would give even Paste Glaze a run for its money. The stuff just caught me by surprise, that's all. Not saying we should all throw out our jars of Pinnacle. :)
 
When multiple products are being used..BLACKFIRE under SOUVERAN,etc,etc...you are essentially reviewing the SYSTEM. Each product on their own may yield different performance and physical characteristics depending on surface prep and compatibility.



I have used mothers cleaner wax too and found it very easy to use. I found it has all the cleaning power than KLASSE AIO has. For a better shine try automagic WET cleaner/wax, that comes with claymagic. It is a bit harder to buff though. Most of these cleaner wax formulations are similar to pure carnuba blends with abrasives added..........
 
Yeah, in a sense I am concerned with the reports about Klasse with a topper, BlackFire with a topper, etc. because as DK said above, it's the "system" you're testing, not the individual product.



I didn't mean for anyone to get upset with my post, but rather wanted to ask how can we report on a product when we're topping it or layering it or doing other things to enhance it?



I think of the posts about Blackfire durability...people had varrying degrees of results here, and some who were claiming it lasted "long" or looked "great" were also topping it with other products. Same with Klasse - how can you know how the Klasse is doing when you're putting a carnauba on top of it? I've tried both of those products and think they're decent, but I sure wouldn't post a report on BF or K if I had topped it with something...what type of credibility would thewaxtest.com have if we had topped all of our waxes with x,y, or z?



Those examples are wildly different than using a PCL like Pinnacle or P21S...PCL's are for prepping; cleaning, preparing the surface (like a 3M SMR, or similar, only milder), so I don't discredit any review that uses a prep product like that. Just the opposite- I believe in a good prep job; it's 90% of the results.



I think I just had a wild hair up my arse, and felt like questioning everything. :) It's all good!



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I agree, I liked the Mothers Cleaner Wax - very easy to use and good overall performance, so I think we ultimately agree.

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Maybe I should take out the part where I say, "that it would be MY great new product" and amend the statement to, "hey, this stuff is surprisingly easy to buff....and dries quick!" :) Because I certainly do agree with your statements about Blackfire.



And when SLP asks me about durability, my amended response is, "I don't know". Because I didn't mean to make it seem like I was doing some kind of review on the product.



Sorry for the misunderstanding. :up
 
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