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I Re-Blitzed my car last week and I think I "locked in" some water spots that were on the car. So I think what I need to do now is wash my car with the Water/Vinegar? mixutre to strip the wax and the water spots. I've never done a water/vinegar wash b4 i guessing it couldn't be too hard...what is the proper ratio of water to vinegar? 50/50?

Also, if this will strip my wax can I re-apply a coat of SG b4 I re-Blitz?

Is there anything else I need to know about doing this?
 
A good ratio to start off is 50/50 vinegar and distilled water. You would wash your car as usual, the use this solution on the affected area, then wash again to get all the residue off. I think that the Klasse SG can be applied since the Blitz is stipped and i think this solution will remove some if not all the Klasse undearneath the Blitz (assuming you did apply Klasse under the Blitz.)



I do not think the waterspots etched into the clear, but try the vinegar bath first and post results.





So, wash, vinegar bath, wash, Klasse SG (multiple coatS), then Blitz.



i woudl wear rubber gloves to protect your hands while working with this vinegar, and use a seperate wash mitt.
 
id just use a polish or cleaner to strip the wax and remove the water spots...especially since you want to re SG again.
 
Jason- Im pretty sure there is no clear on my car.



Two seemingly conflicting views on weither or not I can add a layer of SG after the Water/Vinegar mix...I guess if the mixture doesnt strip Klasse, i should be ok?
 
whoops, my bad, forgot your integra does not have a clear.



I don't know if the vinegar will strip the Klasse, but I know it will strip the Blitz.
 
Jason thanks for your help!

Sounds like I'd be better off using a light abrasive such as 3M SMR to rid my car of the water spots, cuz im not really sure if the Vinegar will strip the Klasse either and I really dont wanna risk not having all of my Klasse layers on my car.

Would there be any harm in leaving them? They are deffinitly on top of the Klasse AIO and SG layers, and you kinda hafta look @ my hood a certian way to see them. Any thoughts?
 
I think once you find water spots on your car you should remove them quickly. They will etch into the paint in your integra and you will have to rub a lot with the 3M or move on to a more agressive polish.





Had this problem on a 99 corolla, last winter left the water spots on the car for 5 months (december-april) and had to use the PC with a cutting pad and Finesse It II to remove the water marks.





Remember to re-klasse after using 3M SMR.
 
Have any of you ever had a customer who was so impressed with the level of detail that they tipped you beyond the cost of the paint correction? Or is tipping a standard practice? Just curious.
 
I'd say about 20% of my customers give a tip.

Sometimes an extra $10 or $20.

I wouldn't say it's standard practice. Some people don't even tip in restaraunts! Those young waitresses only make about $4 per hour!!! (don't get me started..............):cursing:
 
A few of my better customers who appreciate the intense work that detailing involves usually tip.

The ones who bring me the trashed beaters are the ones who don't really tip.
 
I just finished a small part of a huge collection, I charged the owner the same amount for each car done (some were easier and some harder so it evened out my per HR/rate) I was paid in full and cahs for all the cars I detailed + the price of another car (if I did another) as tip. Very very very generous!

I Never, never count money in front of a client!!! I counted it at home and immediately sent off an email thanking him for the opportunity and his gratuity. Dealing with someone who takes care of you like that and is such a powered powered person it would abosolutely offend them to offer back a gratuity, no matter how much the amount.

You need to think hard about what type of client and how he or she chooses to tip you.

Some people tip as a gesture because they think its proper but may feel its forced to services rendered. I personally think a detail is enough payment in itself if you charge exactly what you needed too.

If a customer hands me extra tip as a small gesture I politely refuse 1 time, if they persist I politely accept.

DO NOT GET INTO A DEATH MATCH TRYING TO REFUSE A TIP, YOU WILL OFFEND A CUSTOMER.

Reading people is key, see how they respond to offering or giving a tip. If you see true genuine appreciation (voice, facial expressions) then in their minds offering you a tip is 100% justified and they WANT you to have it for a job well done.

If they are slow to offer a tip or fumble for cash or a check than they most likely are stalling for time in hopes you say "Oh please no gratuity is needed".

Call me crazy but this is how I do things, hope it helps you.
 
Street Dreams said:
I just finished a small part of a huge collection, I charged the owner the same amount for each car done (some were easier and some harder so it evened out my per HR/rate) I was paid in full and cahs for all the cars I detailed + the price of another car (if I did another) as tip. Very very very generous!

I Never, never count money in front of a client!!! I counted it at home and immediately sent off an email thanking him for the opportunity and his gratuity. Dealing with someone who takes care of you like that and is such a powered powered person it would abosolutely offend them to offer back a gratuity, no matter how much the amount.

You need to think hard about what type of client and how he or she chooses to tip you.

Some people tip as a gesture because they think its proper but may feel its forced to services rendered. I personally think a detail is enough payment in itself if you charge exactly what you needed too.

If a customer hands me extra tip as a small gesture I politely refuse 1 time, if they persist I politely accept.

DO NOT GET INTO A DEATH MATCH TRYING TO REFUSE A TIP, YOU WILL OFFEND A CUSTOMER.

Reading people is key, see how they respond to offering or giving a tip. If you see true genuine appreciation (voice, facial expressions) then in their minds offering you a tip is 100% justified and they WANT you to have it for a job well done.

If they are slow to offer a tip or fumble for cash or a check than they most likely are stalling for time in hopes you say "Oh please no gratuity is needed".

Call me crazy but this is how I do things, hope it helps you.
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Nailed It ^^^ ;)

I don't even want to go into some of the tips/gratuitys that have been bestowed on me. I have been very fortunate.

When payment is made to me, I never look at the amount(check or cash) I fold it up, put it in my pocket and continue on with the conversation at hand

I can't say I wait till I get home to check the amount, but I at least wait to get out of eyeshot of client :o
 
A customer of mine gave me a couple bottles of apple juice. It was not bad.

I have detailed a few cars and most of them do not tip me. However, I think that's okay. I believe that tipping is optional. It has been deemed necessary by the restaurant workers. Remember, most of us detailers have hourly rates equivalent of around $15/hr. The restaurant workers roughly at around $6/hr. They need tips to survive, and it's understandable.

I notice that most workers in the service industry get offended when they are not tipped adequately. In one of my Las Vegas trips eight years ago, a Mexican taxi driver chased me and my family down the hotel entrance to berate us because we only tipped him 5%. He demanded that we tip him at least 20% on the basis that his cab was a 8 seater van. I gave him the 20% he demanded. The hotel valets and workers just looked at us all weird, almost as if I deserved to be berated for not tipping 20%.
 
I get tipped fairly often although not automatically. A couple of huge tips stand out from my mind.

Myself and a gentlemen I was working alongside once received $200 cash each for being "nice guys" from a particular client once.

A second example is one time I discounted my client $250.00 just for being a great client (which he is) so he counted by sending me my bill (I usually send him an invoice and receive payment a week later) plus $400.00 for a tip (or 150.00 over what it should have been).

These tips stand out as huge. Overall I do not expect a tip ever, but am humbled when I receive one.
 
dennn said:
I notice that most workers in the service industry get offended when they are not tipped adequately. In one of my Las Vegas trips eight years ago, a Mexican taxi driver chased me and my family down the hotel entrance to berate us because we only tipped him 5%. He demanded that we tip him at least 20% on the basis that his cab was a 8 seater van. I gave him the 20% he demanded. The hotel valets and workers just looked at us all weird, almost as if I deserved to be berated for not tipping 20%.
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I'm sorry, but thats funny ^^^^^


BTW Welcome to Truth in Detailing, hope to see you around :w00t:
 
Chubby Davis said:
Meaning of TIPS..To Insure Perfect Service... A tip should be given at the start of service to insure perfect service!
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Funny you should say that ^

Whilst most of the meals I eat are prepared at home(Wifes a greeaaat cook :clap: ) When we do go out to dinner it has always been a practice of mine to tip the waiter/waitress at the time of ordering the food. I also tip 50%as we only dine out 3-4 times a month,so the money is really not that much(Plus we don't drink alcohol $$$)Considering the Terrific Service we always recieve

This has ALWAYS assured everthing is preformed properly.
 
I get tipped occasionally, but more often than not I think that people here in Utah are not big tippers in any areas. I don't expect one and when I get one it's a bonus!

In a very rare instance I feel that a tip would have been "proper" and did not receive one. Example..... I got a call 8 am Sunday morning (I ALWAYS answer my phone) from a woman with an "emergency". Someone vomited all over over the back of her Tahoe and she could not even get in it because of the smell. I usually don't work Sundays but was there in a few hours and cleaned the truck til there was no evidence of the mishap. It was really gross. Now... she paid what I quoted her and was happy with the job, but in this instance I feel that showing up on Sunday morning w/out an appt. to clean vomit should have been more appreciated, ie: a tip. I was happy for the business and got paid for my time and I would never hold it against a customer for not tipping. But just between us here in this forum, I felt that even a small tip would have made it better.
 
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