Thoughts on Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS??

toml

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We've been hearing a lot about the Flex XC 3410. Does anyone have experience with other forced rotation RO polishers like the Makita BO6040 or the Bosch 1250DEVS that they'd like to share?



I really like what I've read about the Flex, but I've only been able to find a comment or two on the others without any sort of in-depth review. ZoranC posted a picture thread of the Bosch but no comments on its use.
 
Well, we won't be hearing Zoran's in-depth review anytime soon as we was recently banned from this forum. He was planning a multiple polisher shoot-out including the Bosch and Flex. I think somebody was ponying up a Makita BO6040 to demo against as well. But it looks like we'll never see this materialize on this forum anyway...
 
I just bought and sent back the Bosch 1250DEVS. I was not impressed. Back to a UDM for me. Of the Bosch's 2 modes, on the polish mode it takes no pressure at all to stop the pad regardless of speed setting, on turbo mode it became awkward for me to work with. Just my opinoin.
 
Ruttrow said:
I just bought and sent back the Bosch 1250DEVS. I was not impressed. Back to a UDM for me. Of the Bosch's 2 modes, on the polish mode it takes no pressure at all to stop the pad regardless of speed setting, on turbo mode it became awkward for me to work with. Just my opinoin.



Ruttrow, thanks ... that's good feedback. Based on a spec 6.5 amp motor (UDM 4.2 amp), I would have thought that the Bosch wouldn't have bogged down. What did you find awkward to handle? Was it the forced rotation part?
 
hharvey13 said:
I too would love to hear more about the Makita BO6040.

i've had mine forever but never got much of a chance to use it for car polishing (remodeled a house, got married, sold a house, bought a new house, all in the past six months). i've used it a few times so i can give you my impressions of it from that, but it's by no means an exhaustive review.



first, you can't use any of the backing plates that you would use for a pc without fashioning some sort of adapter. but the plate that comes with it seems sturdy enough. i've used a number of my lake county pads on it with no problems. the pads stick out far enough from the plate that i never felt nervous about it around curves.



the vibrations on it are pretty smooth. it's smoother to run it in forced rotation mode than in orbital mode. not sure why this is, but it definitely feels better. compared to a pc i'd say it has about 1/3rd of the vibes. i can definitely feel the vibrations of a pc after an hour or so. i'd say that it roughly breaks down and polishes out my menzerna ip nearly twice as fast as my pc. i can't see much of reason to ever really use it in just orbital mode unless i was really trying to finish something out gently. it's also quieter than a pc by a wide margin. it's not quiet overall, but pc's make my ears bleed.



there's a large ribbed grippy pad at the top front of the unit that i use to hold and maneuver it. i think it came with a side handle, but i've never been a fan of those since it seems to be too far outboard from the center of the pad. the overall construction of the unit is very sturdy. the cord seems like it will hold up well and the dials, buttons and switches all feel right. my only complaint is that sometimes it's hard to turn it off since it has a slider switch for power.



in forced rotation mode, the polisher does tend to "walk" on you a bit until you get used to it. i'd suspect this is probably the case for all forced rotation orbitals since the pad's turning it acts like a wheel since nobody can hold a pad perfectly flat all the time. it's much less forceful than a rotary obviously, but if you're only used to pc's you'll find it odd-feeling.



it doesn't bog down in my experience. i've done some car polishing and also some sanding on stone floors, wood and drywall texture. in some of those situations i've leaned into it fairly hard and never felt it was straining with the pressure. so i've never had a concern with its power. it's certainly held up to more pressure than i would ever use on a car without ill effects.



that's about it. i do recall when i first bought it there was another poster on here who bought one and he used a few parts from a hardware store and a bit of machining to make an adapter for the edge pad system. if that's your preferred pad system, then it's worth searching for. i might still have it saved somewhere if you can't find it.



i'm generally a fan of makita products even though the rest of my power tools are dewalts. zoran claims to have read many failure issues with bo6040's but i've never seen them. to be fair, i've never looked that hard for it either, so i suppose it's possible. but i'm not going to worry about it. makita is a big brand and they likely have pretty good support. i'm intrigued by the flex, but to me, i'd rather have a machine that can also do actual sanding and is from a well-known (to me) brand.
 
toml said:
Ruttrow, thanks ... that's good feedback. Based on a spec 6.5 amp motor (UDM 4.2 amp), I would have thought that the Bosch wouldn't have bogged down. What did you find awkward to handle? Was it the forced rotation part?



Knowing very little about the forced rotation, I would say that was my problem. Like the previous post says it tends to walk on you. On the polish mode the one I had bogged down to vibrate only and no spin with less than 5# of pressure. Maybe it was faulty I'm not sure. After using a pc for many years I could not get used to it on " turbo " mode.
 
I think if you're polishing cars more then just occasionally you should seriously consider something like the BO6040 over a PC or UDM. It is much more powerful and has a longer throw. Even with the larger pads you have to use with a BO6040 you'll be able to correct more and finish finer then a PC can in less time to boot. With the BP that comes with the BO6040 both the 7'5" LC pads and the smaller 6.5" pads fit perfect.



To me the BO6040 vs. the PC is like a Makita rotary vs. a CE or no name brand rotary, more stout and better build quality. Just a better tool all around.
 
I, too, am interested in the Festool versus Makita versus Flex comparison/debate...

I've got the rotary and PC and even some other machines... I love that lil' Metabo SXE400!



My friend just got the Festool Rotex® RO 150 FEQ, and I was considering it, too, but I've been looking at the Makita BO6040. I just read all I could on the Flex XC3401VRG, too.



That Makita is looking pretty darn good, considering price, availability, & brand reputation! About $231.88 is the best I've seen for price. One SILLY question, though-



I was told, or I read somewhere, that the rotation of the Makita is backwards, or COUNTER-CLOCKWISE when looking at it in use... Yes? No? Why they'd design it like that, I could never guess!



Help is appreciated. Kevin Brown
 
iamwaxman said:
I was told, or I read somewhere, that the rotation of the Makita is backwards, or COUNTER-CLOCKWISE when looking at it in use... Yes? No? Why they'd design it like that, I could never guess!



Help is appreciated. Kevin Brown





In forced rotation mode it does spin opposite of their rotary but it doesn't really matter. That rotation doesn't make it harder to control.



To be honest I really don't ever use the forced rotation mode, just the R/O mode. Out of the many hundreds of hours I have on my two BO6040's I probably have only used the forced rotation mode for a dozen or so minutes. Anything that needs more aggression gets hit with a rotary first.
 
Hi guys, im from Australia and new to this forum. Im looking for a new RO and trying to decide on either the Makita BO6040 or Bosch 1250DEVS (which is called the GEX150Turbo in Australia).



Basically my question is: has anyone encountered any problems with CCS pads sticking properly to the Bosch 1250devs?



Over in Australia, there have been quite a few complaints about CCS pads not sticking well to some of the Bosch random orbitals. Aparently this is because the backing plates (velcro hooks) on the bosch machines are really short and small.



I haven't personally inspected the Bosch 1250devs yet, but by looking at some pictures posted by another member in this forum, i've noticed that the velcro hooks on the bosch are a little different compared to the Festool 150FEQ, which seems to have a more "normal" looking velcro with nice deep hooks.



Could anyone shed some light on this please? The Bosch is about Aud$150 cheaper than the Makita here in Australia. Thanks in advance.
 
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