Thought this was cool, but what will it mean for detailing?

tubafeak said:
Self-Repairing Paint
Seems like a cool idea. On the other hand it could have us out of some jobs. Hmmm...
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Possibly, but considering all the problems Nissan has been having, it's unlikely they will flood the market right way. What happens after the three year period?

As a side note, did any of you notice that the recalls for Toyota have doubled in the past year?

Charles
 
Nissan is the last company to be talking about paint.
Cost could be a big issue. For $5000 a company in Toronto will coat your car and guarantee no scratches (except accidents) from keys, dogs, birds or bird etching for 5 years.
 
PEI Detail said:
Nissan is the last company to be talking about paint.
Cost could be a big issue. For $5000 a company in Toronto will coat your car and guarantee no scratches (except accidents) from keys, dogs, birds or bird etching for 5 years.
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Sounds more like the consumer would be buying a warranty policy, rather than the paint actually being scratch-proof. The coating is most likely warranted for that period of time, if it fails, they just spray it again. Probably a low-cost per application, so if they do have to do it again, they aren't out big bucks.

I could be wrong, but i highly doubt they have a true scratch-resistent paint. The coating by Nissan looks interesting, but as stated before, what happens after that 3 year period? complete failure?
 
Nissan Motor unveiled Friday a new clearcoat paint that repairs small scratches on car surfaces...

...Nissan says its scratch resistant properties are good for about 3 years.
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Yeah.... uhmmm... no thanks. I prefer my clear coat to last longer than that. What will the paint look like after 3 years? You can't tell me they have done 3 years of R&D on this stuff. Even if they have, where is the 3 year before and after? It may be the future of Nissans, but I'll never pay a premium for a car with a clear coat that only lasts 3 years. I'd never buy a Nissan anyway, but this is just more good reason not to buy one.
 
Interesting concept....my thoughts: Are the detailing supply companies going to get a hold of this "special resin" and incorporate it into their products? Might be something to look out for.....this could indeed change the whole process of detailing as we know it.
 
Jngr,

Nissan doesn't say that the clearcoat will last 3 years! The self-repairing ability is active within that timeframe. After this period, the CC is no different than any usual CC.
 
Anyone think it's a little odd how the picture is almost EXACTLY the same in both instances?
 
I am more curious on how the paint does it.
According to the articles its takes a about week, so what happens to the dirt that gets on the surface, is it trapped in the paint/coating?
Is the "Scratch Guard Coat" an extra coat or part of the clear, meaning will polishing with a rotary or PC deminish its repairing ability any faster.

It sounds like a great idea, but so did GM's 4-6-8 engine :rolleyes:

"J"
 
I am also curious on how it works. I use a system I purchased from a company in the west that softens the clear coat, blends it, and as it dries it bonds to the base. It takes out many visible scratches, though the deeper ones still have grooves under artificial light. Perhaps it is something like that, but made as an active ingredient of the clear coat.
 
Hopefully they have done long term testing to make sure that this clear won't suddenly go to crap after it's effectiveness dies out and either becomes like a normal clear coat or if it can be rejuvinated.

Makes me wonder how this type of paint will take to a sealant or wax and if those products will have a negative impact on the "self healing properties".
 
mg031 said:
Hopefully they have done long term testing to make sure that this clear won't suddenly go to crap after it's effectiveness dies out and either becomes like a normal clear coat or if it can be rejuvinated.

Makes me wonder how this type of paint will take to a sealant or wax and if those products will have a negative impact on the "self healing properties".
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There is seldom long-term testing. A year or two makes it "permanent."
 
So let's see here.... you scratch your car on Monday and it is repaired by Friday? What about the scratches that you got on Tuesday? And Wednesday? It seems to me that your paint will look just as crappy as it did before because you will always have fresh damage on the surface if you aren't taking care of it. And what about car care? Will a PC and DACP or SSRII remove this wonderful coating? Do you have to wait 3 years before you can wax your car? Will polymer sealants affect how it works? Too much I don't know about this product for me to give it a thumbs up. It just seems like more of a problem for me than a benefit.
 
PEI Detail said:
I am also curious on how it works. I use a system I purchased from a company in the west that softens the clear coat, blends it, and as it dries it bonds to the base. It takes out many visible scratches, though the deeper ones still have grooves under artificial light. Perhaps it is something like that, but made as an active ingredient of the clear coat.
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PEI - Does the process/product you use mentioned above eliminate water spots/etching that can't be removed by wetsanding and buffing? Thanks.
 
Jared, It does basically what wetsanding can do, without wetsanding risk, and less physical work and time than serious buffing.
Won't take out some bird dropping etching.
Do you think this Nissan product could prevent that since it is a daily renewal, whereas as detailers we only renew customer cars once in a while. I think Jngr's comments are bang on: too many unanswered questions.
 
PEI Detail said:
Jared, It does basically what wetsanding can do, without wetsanding risk, and less physical work and time than serious buffing.
Won't take out some bird dropping etching.
Do you think this Nissan product could prevent that since it is a daily renewal, whereas as detailers we only renew customer cars once in a while. I think Jngr's comments are bang on: too many unanswered questions.
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No, I am just curious about the process you mentioned because of an inheritance vehicle I have recieved that has some water etching that I have been unable to remove. I have traveled up the long and winding road to the point of wetsanding, and have made very little headway. I would like to avoid a repaint if at all possible.

In my personal opinion, I am not sold on the Nissan "self repairing" paint. I think (again, personally) that it is a very clever marketing plan, and that it is really geared to people who, more or less, wouldn't take care of their vehicle anyway. It is interesting to read about however.

Thanks for your response.
 
It is probably just like PermaPlate. How many thousands and thousands of people were sold on that crap believing that they would never have to wax their car again? The only thing dealers want as much as to sell you a car is to sell you another car. Sell you a car with paint that will look good no matter what and get you in the habit of not properly caring for it and then BAM!! Instacrap car. You'll come back to the dealership for a new one that did what the old one did. What do you want to bet that in 3 years they will be offering 'rejuvination' or something for cars with this product on it? I'll bet dealerships will be waxing your car for $500 bucks and telling you it is restoring the paint correction properties of the car.
 
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