This has got to be the most biased headline I've ever seen
- Thread starter Scottwax
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kerrinjeff
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Pretty absurd. Obviously from the crowd that wants gas prices as high as possible. This clearly illustrates why the media has no credibility anymore. They report their agenda, not the truth.
bigfish528
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In the opening of every news cast they should have a caption "if you are looking for the truth don't watch us"
GlossyTundra
Tractor Detailer
Annoy some Bears, or have gas hit $10 a gallon..........hmmmmm.....................
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
The headline should read:
Oil companies get OK to annoy and possible harm consumers
Oil companies get OK to annoy and possible harm consumers
imported_shine
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Wow, that's out there. I guess global warming is a fact now? Environmentalists and their BS...
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for fuel efficient vehicles and clean air but there is more oil and its not in the middle east.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for fuel efficient vehicles and clean air but there is more oil and its not in the middle east.
No one actually believes that oil exploration is a solution to high oil prices. Oil companies, for obvious reasons, will try to sell it though. We have been penny-wise and pound foolish. By opting out of the Kyoto treaty the U.S. has put itself at a disadvantage in the development of alternative energy sources and conservation technologies. Now and in the future we will be dependent upon foreign industries that should have been developed domestically to provide us with these new technologies. The lack of tougher fuel economy standards has left the big three behind in the development of hybrid technologies and more fuel efficient vehicles. Unforturnately, the fate of the polar bear is the least of our concerns when it comes to our failed energy policies.
Bunky
Detailing Gnosis
Scottwax said:
Oil companies like high oil prices to the extent it does not foster searches for alternate energy. Oil refineries have delayed improvements (not just due to environmentalists) to boost profits. It is a racket throughout the supply chain.
Drilling now for oil we would see in 10 years is not going to reduce oil prices now or likely in the future. I am almost for saving our oil until we need it. In addition to just speculators, there are a lot countries growing (India, China, etc) that have greater demands on oil.
Holden_C04
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I don't think it's right to destroy wilderness in the name of mining some oil that will keep us going for another 2 years. It's not going to change anything but increase profit (zero effect on gas prices).
kerrinjeff
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jhakken said:
The Kyoto treaty was a bunch of bull. The US (read: taxpayers) get to foot the bill for the rest of the world, and the leading polluters (China, India) are not subject to it! All for the imagined Global Warming (it isn't) which has morphed into "Climate Change" (as was predicted when global warming didn't panout).
To get an idea of what the environmentalist agenda is up to, read "State of Fear" by Michael Chrichton. An entertaining read that is footnoted with actual science.
The Kyoto Global Warming Treaty: Bad Medicine
jhakken said:
We should have been drilling in ANWR and off the coast for years now. We are simply not running out of oil. We just aren't going after our own reserves.
How did opting out of the economy killer that is Kyoto hurt the development of alternative fuels in the US in any way? People are working on alternative fuels/energy sources all the time. No one has come up with one that truly replaces the internal combustion engine yet. Fuel cell technology looks promising but it might be 10-15 years before the cost is affordable to the average car buying and enough refueling stations are in place.
The high oil prices will do more to hurry the research into alternative energy sources than any treaty will anyway. Why do you think the Saudi's agreed to increase oil production? They know that high oil prices make alternative energy sources more viable by reducing the cost differential.
imported_themightytimmah
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I bet a .45/70 would really annoy them.
...but seriously, I've always wanted a bearskin rug, and I would be happy to address any grievances that the bears might have with drilling.
...but seriously, I've always wanted a bearskin rug, and I would be happy to address any grievances that the bears might have with drilling.
drew.haynes
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shine said:
And ya wanna know what's funny about global warming? Yes, temps are SLIGHTLY higher, but no one has reason to believe they shouldn't be. IN FACT, I read where some Russian scientists were discussing how the earth's average temps rise and fall in 300yr cycles, and that, yeah, the temps may be a little higher, but in about 50 years they'll be way back down again.
Now, some politicians would have us believe we CAUSED this natural heat increase, and that it is not, in fact, natural at all, but very harmful and some sign of the planet's death, blah blah blah. Well, lots of these guys would like to start taxing everything that uses gas or any other "global warming" chemical. Basically, they'll tax the hell out of us to fix a problem that they MAY ALREADY KNOW is fixing itself and was never a problem to begin with. Not only will they make tons of money to use on their own interests, but when the temps DO fall on their own, they'll look like heroes - right all along.
drew.haynes said:
Nice how they've set themselves up to win no matter what. It does seem to be falling apart a bit...
Has global warming research misinterpreted cloud behavior?
...The paper doesn't disprove the theory that global warming is manmade.
Instead, it offers an alternative explanation for what we see in the climate system which has the potential for greatly reducing estimates of mankind's impact on Earth's climate.
"Since the cloud changes could conceivably be caused by known long-term modes of climate variability -- such as the Pacific Decadal Oscillation, or El Nino and La Nina -- some, or even most, of the global warming seen in the last century could simply be due to natural fluctuations in the climate system," Spencer said.
