Thanks every one autopia.org. Been reading alot of posts for about a year and just joined couple months ago. This has been a great learning curve for me and you guys rock with input to everything. Iam just a weekend warrior but do cars on the weekend when ever I can. The procedures you use have helped me a ton. I have tried quite a few an man do they work. I have a Black 07 Audi A4 that I can't keep my hands off and a Silver Jeep Commander. I also take care of my companies vehicles which are all White. My favs are ONR, Duragloss Prod, Pinnacle , S100 and I think my favorite is Ultima. I have polished and UPGP 3X on my audi and WOW what a glow. Like I said can't keep away and topped with Pinnacle LQ. The look and slickness went through the roof. After a few more post I'll try and post some pics. Untill then thanks and keep up the good work and hope to add to the Forum!!!!!:up :up