Swirls, gone, haze....remains....

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breakneckvtec

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Hit the car with DACP and a LC yellow cutting pad applied with my PC. Swirls came out nicely. I just recently noticed, in just the right light, at just the right angle and only on a couple panels I got some haze. I hit the car yesterday with a white LC pad and SMR. I thought I got it, but I didnt, it was reduced but not gone. I am thinking of going with some SFP to remove the haze but have never used it. So any hints, tips, or advice on it would be great. Also, what pad should I used to apply the SFP?





Lastly, Since I have began this the car has seen these polishing steps:

FI yellow pad

SMR white pad X 2

DACP yellow pad X 2



Am I in any danger, I have been getting that worried feeling that I am eating too much clear. This seems light compared to what some do on a yearly basis but this is all the polishing I have done to date since I began my autopian binge.
 
Was the hazing circular and covering wide areas? Or are they linear, corresponding to hand application/removal of protectant? What did you use on the car after you polished with SMR? This is meg's #9 SMR? How long did you work the SMR, over what size area, at what PC speed?



-Raymond
 
Dang man, its polishing haze



I removed with a PakShak MF, it wasnt caused by that, and dont go in the motion of the removal or application. They are very very very hard to see.
 
If they are 'very very very' hard to see then I wouldn't worry about it. Perfection isn't always obtainable. If you use a wax or sealant then that will most likely fill those 'very very very' hard to see marks. It could just be streaking from the towels or something like that. Don't obsess too much over a perfect finish because its just going to get messed up again the first time the wind blows the wrong direction or when you get hit by a dust cloud on the freeway or something.
 
jngr makes a good point. I also want to add that SMR's can haze on some paints and colours more than others. I'd try using something even finer to remove the hazing. Klasse AIO has worked well for me in this situation.
 
There is a layer of protectant on, its definitally haze. Maybe I will just hit it with the SMR and a yellow pad this time and see what happens. Thanks.
 
breakneckvtec said:
There is a layer of protectant on, its definitally haze. Maybe I will just hit it with the SMR and a yellow pad this time and see what happens. Thanks.
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Sounds right to me, you may need to follow up with the white pad.
 
Should I try the 3M SMR again? Or should I go to the meguiars, I am thinking of trying #9, opinions?



Also, if I could get a comment on the amount of polishing the paint can take. Like stated, the most agressive combo used was DACP with yellow pad and the rest has been pretty mild polishes. Any danger?
 
That has actually been discussed somewhere before about how much polishing paint can handle. If I remember right the general consensus was that a PC with DACP isn't going to really do any damage to your paint unless you are using it every single day for months and months. Be careful about the paint around the edges of body panels because it is thinner there anyway, but the rest of your car can take it. I've polished my car quite a bit and I'm sure there is still plenty of clear coat on it. There is a more scientific explaination of this somewhere on the board. I can't remember what it was called.
 
I'm certain that the amount of polishing that a clear can withstand is different from car to car (as different manufacturers use different amounts/qualities of clear), and from person to person (as different people use more/less aggressive polishes).



I had an '87 Benz 300TD for 7 years, polished it once with Griot's #1, #2, then #3 polish. Polished it twice per year with #3 after that (total of about 14 times). The paint was still awesome, and didn't show any problems (except where someone had dripped brake fluid on the hood).



Polishing was done with a PC, at speed 4.5, using a Griot's orange pad, with no pressure on the PC (simply gliding along).



As you state, there's no simple way to tell how much clear is left (by eye), but there's a lot more there than most people will polish through in the life of a car.
 
On my car, I have a way to measure that.



A couple of years ago I parked under a pine tree and then I found some drops of pine resin on the roof. One of them wasn't cleaned on time to prevent etching on the clear coat. It didn't eat thru the paint but it went thru the cc alright.



Since then I polished the roof (and most of the car) 2 or 3 times with a cutting compound, a rotary and cutting pads, more then 5 times with aggressive polishes like Menzerna IP, 1Z PP and others, and do regular polishes with mild polishes.



That mark is still there, still very visible and I can still feel it with my finger. So, there's still a lot of CC around it.
 
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