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Yes, people like the wrinkle/crinkle towels. I like waffle weaves, I like the TRC FTW towels, I also have other glass towels that I have bought at other times that work as advertised (I do not like the smooth diamond weave ones). As long as there are people like us who are chasing the mythical "best" glass towel, the towel companies will keep coming out with new ones...to sell more towels. Hence the wrinkle/crinkle and the new "carbon fiber" ones from Autofiber.
 
Setec Astronomy said:
Yes, people like the wrinkle/crinkle towels. I like waffle weaves, I like the TRC FTW towels, I also have other glass towels that I have bought at other times that work as advertised (I do not like the smooth diamond weave ones). As long as there are people like us who are chasing the mythical "best" glass towel, the towel companies will keep coming out with new ones...to sell more towels. Hence the wrinkle/crinkle and the new "carbon fiber" ones from Autofiber.
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I never tried waffle weave towels or TRC FTW towels for glass. I take it they work good.
 
A really great paper towel for glass, is the Kimberly-Clark Professional WYPALL L10....
Stokdgs
 
Bull6791 said:
I never tried waffle weave towels or TRC FTW towels for glass. I take it they work good.
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Bull, if I can give you some friendly advice, or in this case, maybe just my opinion. You have to stop getting hung up on whether things "work good" or not. Most companies (not all, but most) don't put out junk, and if they do, it doesn't stay on the market long. You have to find what works for you and use it. If you keep the mindset of framing everything around if it "works good" or not, you're going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion, take it for what it's worth. A better way to frame your questions might be "what do you guys think of XYZ product based on your experience with it".
 
TGates said:
Bull, if I can give you some friendly advice, or in this case, maybe just my opinion. You have to stop getting hung up on whether things "work good" or not. Most companies (not all, but most) don't put out junk, and if they do, it doesn't stay on the market long. You have to find what works for you and use it. If you keep the mindset of framing everything around if it "works good" or not, you're going about it the wrong way. Just my opinion, take it for what it's worth. A better way to frame your questions might be "what do you guys think of XYZ product based on your experience with it".
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Thanks. Point taken.
 
TGates:
You are half-right in your assessment of what products and microfibers are "best" for cleaning glass. I agree , though, with Bull6791 about looking and asking for "the best of the best of the best. Sir" (Another famous line from the movie Men in Black...but I digress!). I share that "Holy Grail", "best of the best of the best" mentality when looking for ANYTHING detailing-related.
And you are correct; if a glass cleaning product or microfiber is bad, the market (detailers who buy and them) will decide that and you are correct about asking Autopians their opinions in comparing such products by their experience with them. I would think MOST Autopians have moved on from Windex glass cleaner for detailing vehicles, despite it being one of the most-used and sold household glass cleaners on the market.
MY problem in getting glass truly clean is with me, or more correctly, my technique or methodology in cleaning glass. Just because I have the "right" products and microfibers for glass does not guarantee perfectly clean glass. The end user of them still has to apply them properly.
Now to Bull6791 I am NOT implying you do not know how to clean glass. Just the opposite: I am the one with the glass-cleaning problem because of MY improper technique. What may be causing some of MY problem is using a glass microfiber cloth that is already dirty from previous multiple cleanings OR having a contaminated glass microfiber that has been machine washed with other microfibers. This is one reason I have learned to hand-wash glass cleaning microfibers separate from other detailing microfibers.
Here's the other problem: the glass itself, or more correctly, what contaminants are on the glass to begin with. Heavy smoking film or plastic gas-off film may require a degreaser wash or solvent wiping first. Hard water etching may (will!) require glass polishing with a machine and glass specific polish and pads. No "best" glass cleaner will clean these two contaminants from glass by themselves even with a "proper" technique.
Just something to keep in mind when cleaning glass.

Oh yes, cannot forget a Captain Obvious Public Service Announcement about cleaning automotive glass:
On side door windows, roll them down to clean the edges covered by the window seals. A small, but noticeable glass cleaning step that separates a good detailer from a novice.
 
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A lot of this is personal preference, at some point you just have to try one of these towels and see how you like it.

As I noted, some people really like the crinkle/wrinkle towels, I have used and still use waffle weave and more recently have tried and liked the twist-weave towels that you can get at Griot's, TRC, or AF. I have not used the crinkle/wrinkle.

Here's a page with some normal and wacky ones, I personally would stay away from the smooth or diamond ones, I have found those to lint.
 
I use two towels - a no nap weave for initial wipe and a waffle weave to dry. This way the drying towel does not get saturated as much. I probably use more cleaner than needed. I wipe horizontally on inside and vertically on outside so I can see where I missed.
 
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