Spraying wet and drying?

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shadybreal

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My most popular package is my "Quick Shine" package. It's basically a hand wash but I do tire shine, rain-x, and some type of quick detailer. I currently use Meg Final Touch, but I'm looking to try something else. Does anyone know a good one to use that you spray on the car before drying the car? I usually dry the car completely then do the Final Touch last. I was hoping there would be a way to dry and shine at the same time to eliminate one long step. I would still dry the glass, chrome, and wheels completely, but just not the body of the car. Thanks!
 
I like the idea of using a QD type product while drying. I've managed to convince myself :rolleyes: that it adds just a bit of additional lubrication to the water to prevent/lessen the opportunity for micro marring while drying. My two current favorite "drying aids" are PB's S&W and Adam's Detail Spray. Both are really good on glass too, leaving a streak-free surface and easily handling any water-spotting that can occur during the hotter months. Of course S&W isn't going to add any gloss, but really leaves a clean surface behind.

I've never used Final Touch as I stocked up on Final Detail when I heard it was being discontinued. Though it is hard to beat for QD'ing, I don't think it is as good as the above two products as a drying aid.
 
If the car is truly clean, Dura Gloss Aqua Wax would be a great product for what you are wanting to do.

If there is any chance the vehicle has any dirt left on it, the PB's S&W would be excellent. It would remove any possible dirt missed in the washing.

My winter washing consists of the DIY spray washes and S&W to remove the dirt and film that the spray washes leave behind.

Charles
 
CharlesW said:
If the car is truly clean, Dura Gloss Aqua Wax would be a great product for what you are wanting to do.

If there is any chance the vehicle has any dirt left on it, the PB's S&W would be excellent. It would remove any possible dirt missed in the washing.

My winter washing consists of the DIY spray washes and S&W to remove the dirt and film that the spray washes leave behind.

Charles
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Could using the Aqua Wax be considered for my wash and wax (Express Detail) package?
 
shadybreal said:
Could using the Aqua Wax be considered for my wash and wax (Express Detail) package?
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That brings in quite a few variables.
If all the vehicle needs is a freshening of a decent wax/sealant base, then yes, I think it could work.
The AW is a wipe on, wipe off product that doesn't really do any paint cleaning and it will be diluted with the rinse water remaining on the vehicle.
On my vehicles, it does great, but my vehicles have a good wax/sealant to work on.
Your QD probably doesn't work very good on neglected paint, does it?

One thing that might be a problem for you. People tend to think of a wax job having to be "rubbed" on the paint and then buffed off after it has hazed. They might not accept your drying and waxing in one step.
Not being in the business, I don't really know what reaction you would get from customers.

Charles
 
I haven't tried any of the Duragloss products. But I have tried Optimum's Spray Wax. Adds a noticable difference, especially after an hour or two. I've never tried applying it before drying, but I'm sure it would work. I would also think about cutting out the rain X if you service these customers at least once a month. In my trials, I have had rain X last over 8 months. Unless you are charging enough for all that, I'd drop it. Most places (and I) charge extra for that application.

-Shaun
 
A 1 step spray wax you might consider is PB's QW+. Light cleaners and decent durability, esp. for the little work needed to use it. Even works on moderate oxidation, if you were so inclined to try. Can leave to haze, or can buff it right off. (One additional benefit of QW+ is that it can be used in the sun, in case this makes a difference to you.)
OTC, you might consider Mothers FX Spray Wax. Can be used on a wet surface, and no haze time required. Reflections Spray Wax is thicker, but I haven't had any problems using it on a wet car. In fact, the water seems to help spread it further. However, this one needs to haze, so you may not save much time with this route compared to a traditional wax. Does look very nice, though.

One thing about spray waxes, that I've noticed, is that the "white" ones tend to leave little white specks all over the glass, nooks and crannies if you mist it onto the car. I've found spraying it onto the cloth works better.

As to the RainX, I don't see any great cost savings by not applying it with each wash & wax, as a bottle can do many windshields, and is relatively inexpensive. Now, if you were applying Aquapel each time, that could get costly.
 
Big Leegr said:
A 1 step spray wax you might consider is PB's QW+. Light cleaners and decent durability, esp. for the little work needed to use it. Even works on moderate oxidation, if you were so inclined to try. Can leave to haze, or can buff it right off. (One additional benefit of QW+ is that it can be used in the sun, in case this makes a difference to you.)
OTC, you might consider Mothers FX Spray Wax. Can be used on a wet surface, and no haze time required. Reflections Spray Wax is thicker, but I haven't had any problems using it on a wet car. In fact, the water seems to help spread it further. However, this one needs to haze, so you may not save much time with this route compared to a traditional wax. Does look very nice, though.

One thing about spray waxes, that I've noticed, is that the "white" ones tend to leave little white specks all over the glass, nooks and crannies if you mist it onto the car. I've found spraying it onto the cloth works better.

As to the RainX, I don't see any great cost savings by not applying it with each wash & wax, as a bottle can do many windshields, and is relatively inexpensive. Now, if you were applying Aquapel each time, that could get costly.
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I actually just got my QW+ in last week and used it on a white Chevy Avalanche. It worked very well leaving a smooth, slick, and shiney surface w/ very little work. I also liked it because like you say you can spray the pad so it doesn't look to easy to the customer. As far as Rain X goes, I have had many people tell me not to bother w/ it, but my customers like it; it's cheap; and it takes 2 minutes at the most to put it on and remove it.
 
I'm not in the business, but personally I like Adam's detail spray on a wet car. I spray it on before I dry. Leaves the surface slick with a great shine. It smells good, too. As for Rain X, I think it causes the rubber in the wiper blades to dry out and have to be replaced more often. I used Adam's detail spray on all the glass, too.

Just my .02
 
I use the Poorboys Spray and Wipe to dry and it doe's a great job of reducing any marring from the drying process and it also removes and spots
that may be present from when its hot and its drying faster than you can get
the water off. Not that other products won't work, this is one I have experience with.
 
I used to use Spray and Wipe, but now I use Spray & Gloss on the wet vehicle as long as I know I did a good job washing. It adds lubrication and gloss while drying. In the winter I prefer to use Spray and Wipe with 20% S&G mixture, as I'm sure there is more dirt (salt & sand residue). :)
 
Although they are not sponsors of this board, I prefer to use Mark V's Showroom Finish which does the same thing as Final Inspection for a lot less. It is however not "Body Shop Safe;" when that is a concern, I'll use their Body Glow with equal results.
 
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