Spray, Liquid, Paste

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CharlesW

The Rainmaker
Why do we seem to feel that spray wax/sealant can't/doesn't have the durability of a liquid or paste product?
The consistency of the product doesn't seem like it should have a lot to do with it.
I'm not talking about wipe on, walk away products, but products that are conventionally applied and removed in the way we have done it for years.
If a spray can't have enough solids in it to do the job, does that mean a liquid doesn't have as many solids as a paste so it can't do as good a job as the paste.
I don't think so.
In fact, I think many liquid waxes could be applied as a spray with no problem.
Is this just more marketing or are there some facts to support this belief?
 
It's my belief that more solvents are added to an LSP in order to make it sprayable.
More solvents = less LSP = less durability.
 
Since I really don't know what I'm talking about, I'll just keep going.

If more solvents = less LSP = less durability.
Then less solvents = more LSP = more durability
Spray = more solvents = less LSP
Liquid = less solvent = more LSP
Paste = even less solvent = even more LSP
So we should all use paste waxes since they would offer more protection, right? :)
Hey, I know that isn't true, but are any of the other references any more correct?

Very few paste waxes other than Collinite have any great amount of durability.
Many liquid waxes such as Zaino and Collinite 845 have a lot of durability.
The WOWA products seem to have very good durability and you can't get much thinner than them.

There may be a reason, but I don't think we have found it just yet. :)
 
Charles,
You're comparing apples and kumquats.
The liquids that have greater durability than paste wax have polymers in them. Polymers have greater durability than wax, since the polymers crosslink. Wax just sits on the paint.
WOWAs are not wax, they are polymers.
The paste waxes that have low durability are....well....wax. With no synthetic polymers in them.
If you compare products that have only wax, those relationship formulas above would hold true.
Some products that are called "wax" actually have no wax at all. Some have some wax and some synthetics.
 
CharlesW said:
Why do we seem to feel that spray wax/sealant can't/doesn't have the durability of a liquid or paste product?
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heatgain said:
Charles,
You're comparing apples and kumquats.
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So,
Apples = Wax
Kumquats = Sealants
Why do people seem to think that spray kumquats are not as good/durable as liquid or paste kumquats?

I'm not even sure there are any paste kumquats/sealants, but I think NXT 2.0 Paste might be in that category.

If the WOWA sealants can be made to work, it seems like making a good spray sealant that is applied and then wiped off should be relatively easy.

Actually, I think Klasse SG could almost be used that way. I know some people use it as a wipe on, wipe off product and I think it is thin enough for spray application. I don't happen to have any or I would try it. Anyone else care enough about the question to experiment with their KSG?

Heatgain:
A couple of things you should know.
1. I was a refrigeration fitter for 14 years.
2. I sold commercial refrigeration for 33 years after that.
I have sniffed enough Freon and Phosgene to be as stubborn as it is possible to be. :D
 
CharlesW said:
Heatgain:
A couple of things you should know.
1. I was a refrigeration fitter for 14 years.
2. I sold commercial refrigeration for 33 years after that.
I have sniffed enough Freon and Phosgene to be as stubborn as it is possible to be. :D
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Charles,
Me too.
I was an HVAC/Refrigeration contractor for over 20 years. (hence my nick).
I love the smell of Phosgene in the morning. Smells like.....victory! <cough>
 
heatgain said:
Charles,
Me too.
I was an HVAC/Refrigeration contractor for over 20 years. (hence my nick).
I love the smell of Phosgene in the morning. Smells like.....victory! <cough>
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Two more things.
1. I guessed you were in the field from your user name.
2. I read somewhere that you had been in the HVAC business. :D
 
An old man like me can't remember what I posted......or where.......or why!
My point is.......what was my point?
 
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