Spots Using Ceramic Hybrid

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I have a dark Blue 2025 Mazda. I have been using the Turtle Wax and Meguiar HyBrid spray treatments. The spots are terrible even though I wash it. No matter what I do the hood expecially looks terrible. Like water spots that don't do away.

Today I did the hood with Turtlewax Ceramic Graphine. I am sure the paint is well protected but. I suppose I am into clay bar and starting over with NuFinish..lol. Have not beenon this forum since forever.

Thanks,
Al
 
Tell us more about how you are getting these spots, it sounds like water spots right? Are they from rain, sprinklers or something else? Any chance these are from water drying as you wash?

And if I understand correctly, they don't wash away when you wash the car?
 
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Are you shaking these products well before using?
Regardless, polish that garbage off and start anew with a real coating. There are so many that are easier to apply and remove than what you are currently using
 
Before you go spending more money... Get a paper towel, soak it with white vinegar and put in on a small spot on your hood. Cover it with Saran wrap or a grocery bag and let it sit for 10-15 minutes. Then wipe the area. If it improves the situation, it's very likely hard water spots.
 
Dan said:
Before you go spending more money... Get a paper towel, soak it with white vinegar and put in on a small spot on your hood. Cover it with Saran wrap or a grocery bag and let it sit for 10-15 minutes. Then wipe the area. If it improves the situation, it's very likely hard water spots.
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What is the solution then? The rain is hard water? The spots do not go away
 
Depending on where you live and how well you take care of your vehicles I think that almost any thing that is "Ceramic" will most likely at some time or another have issues with water spotting. Especially if you live somewhere like Florida where you get rain and then immediately have the sun come out and dry the water spots onto the car. I then think that it might better to stick with the older sealants and waxes that can be applied more often and seem to have better water spot protection.
 
TroyScherer said:
Depending on where you live and how well you take care of your vehicles I think that almost any thing that is "Ceramic" will most likely at some time or another have issues with water spotting. Especially if you live somewhere like Florida where you get rain and then immediately have the sun come out and dry the water spots onto the car. I then think that it might better to stick with the older sealants and waxes that can be applied more often and seem to have better water spot protection.
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Yea. Thats the conclusion I reached. Especially with a dark car.
 
I still can't figure out what the "spots" are...are they mineral deposits, or residual dirt that's been wetted then dried, contamination that doesn't wash off...what?

I'd look at them under magnification to clarify what we're talking about before I tried to fix it.

The GG Ceramic products (CAIO, C3-in-1, C Liquid Wax) don't shed contamination readily for me, nothing like products such as FK1000P. This results in "dirty spots" after it's rained on, spots that can be a little tenacious when I wash them off. BUT I don't think that's what we're discussing here...right?
 
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We don't know. You aren't giving us many details or pictures.
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Not much more to say. Followed directions. Doing this stuff or 60+ years. Just never had spots like this.
I plan to use an aggressive polish and go with NuFinish

For my new silver subaru I used the Turtle Wax Graphine Ceramic. It looks great.

Hard to believe there is no solution seen on this board. Probably bc there is none. Just stay away from the spray ceramic stuff on dark cars.
 
You mentioned claying, but not machine finishing (abrading) as in correcting with a compound and then fine finishing with a polish. Those spots as described sound more like clear coat etching from some contaminant like the hard water source used by the dealer washing the vehicle before delivery, but not properly drying completely and those "spots" were there when you bought the car, but never noticed.
One aspect of your Mazda paint is that this manufacturer has a notorious reputation of VERY thin primer/base coat/clear coat or Total Paint Thickness (TPT) in its factory painting process and that any attempt to wet sand, correct, and/or polish these "spots" to remove them can have serious impacts to the life of the clear coat. Without a Paint Thickness Gauge (PTG) to accurately measure & assess the TPT in that area, you are risking permanent damage to the OEM surface by doing it blind without measuring it first.
Is it worth it? You are the only person as the vehicle owner who can and will answer that.
You have to live with that and depending where it exactly is on the vehicle and how visible the area is overall may determine your going forward to remove those spots without using a PTG to measure that area. That's the risk/reward situation.
 
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Well I guess I have somewhat changed my mind. The TW Ceramic Graphene is amazing on a LIGHT CAR. For m e that's the key. Coming from someone who has been waxing cars for 65 years. Getting some coats on there as a new car/paint. The days of outside car care are history IMHO
 
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