Seeing a few new spray on/rinse off coatings now

Can anyone shed some *technical insight* on how this is achieved.

A clean WET car...

Spray it on. The blast it off with a hose/water.

I'm just can't do the mental in my head, how much or how little the product actually becomes part of the surface instead of getting rinsed away.
 
chefwong said:
Can anyone shed some *technical insight* on how this is achieved.

A clean WET car...

Spray it on. The blast it off with a hose/water.

I'm just can't do the mental in my head, how much or how little the product actually becomes part of the surface instead of getting rinsed away.
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It takes much less to treat a surface than you realise. Consider that 1g of product will probably have upwards of a billion trillion molecules in it.



As alluded to earlier in the thread, products with similar effects have been around for a long time. Within the product you have an ingredient which is basically attracted to the surface, like iron filings are to a magnet. Initially they start in the liquid but then bind to the surface. As they do so, they change the character of the surface so that it starts repelling water and bingo - job done.



As far as the 'older' products on the market are concerned, these will astound you even further. Whilst they won't give you months of durability, they will potentially dilute not 5:1 with water, but 50 thousand to one - I have to admit that, even with years of formulating experience, it still shocks me to see it work at those levels!
 
While I appreciate that this is an innovative product, I still can't see how it's a "game changer" as some have been calling it.



Yes I get the "time is money" principle...I do this for a living so I understand. But how it any more a "game changer" compared to WOWA products like Optiseal? That takes 5mins to wax a car and lasts for 6 months in some cases. :nixweiss
 
My concern on a lot of new products, this one included, is what level of protection do they really offer. Water beading is nice to look at, but as many are figuring out, it actually hurts more than it helps.
 
Alfisti said:
While I appreciate that this is an innovative product, I still can't see how it's a "game changer" as some have been calling it.



Yes I get the "time is money" principle...I do this for a living so I understand. But how it any more a "game changer" compared to WOWA products like Optiseal? That takes 5mins to wax a car and lasts for 6 months in some cases. :nixweiss
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5 minutes eh? Impressive considering you must be sealing all trim, wheels, glass, wheel wells, calipers, wiper blades, glass, and up on the roof as well, etc. Is that an SUV? Because 5 minutes is what it takes for hydro2 to do that. This is not marketing talk. These are facts. Plain and simple.



Dan, apply some hydro2 on one section and whatever sealant you like on another and hit them with some powerful cleaner tests and tell me which one offers better protection ;)
 
Now, now, no need for sarcasm.



I can see the benefits if it seals *everything* in one go.



How would you describe the protection level? How tested? What durability have you gotten?
 
Apologies for the sarcasm. I wiIl be blunt if you prefer. You can not seal even the paint of a vehicle in 5 minutes with a wowa sealant.



I'm a huge fan of Ultima Paint Guard Plus and its a great product also. I have a place for it as well.



Good durability with a concentrated WOWA requires very clean paint to bond with. Hydro2 bonds easily for the wash and wax jobs and it has become such a favorite for guys that use it they even want to go rewash the car after polishing and use it there as well.



In my test i went worst case- i did not even clay the vehicle and i used no special prep other than regular washing of a vehicle that sits outside 24/7. I'm going on 4 months and still have beading. As reported others have found the same. I am testing on Florida vehicle outside 24/7. Sheeting slows from its inital crazy velocity after a month. At 3 months I think its faded enough to warrant another application however a wash with a strong cleaner seems to make it happier.
 
Thanks for the heads up!



If applied and not rinsed off in the time frame I suggest or on a warm panel you risk this. In that case immediately take some hydro2 applied to an already wet sponge and wipe it back down.



Follow the directions I have posted and show on my site to avoid this.
 
So, I usually use Chemical Guys V7 to aid in drying the car off. Can I use HydrO2 then use V7 to aid in trying the car off. If I can't use V7 immediately, can I use it on the next wash or I can't use V7 it at all as long as HydrO2 is on the car?



Thanks in advance,



kajunman
 
With Hydro 02 when sprayed with a pressure washer, there is very little water that remains. Not sure you'd need v7 afterwards, but see what you think of the product first.



kajunman said:
So, I usually use Chemical Guys V7 to aid in drying the car off. Can I use HydrO2 then use V7 to aid in trying the car off. If I can't use V7 immediately, can I use it on the next wash or I can't use V7 it at all as long as HydrO2 is on the car?



Thanks in advance,



kajunman
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After using about 70ml to do a c-class mercedes I realized my technique was wrong. Now I have an HVLP turned down and I"m much better with it now. Really amazing how it rolls off the water, I'm just a week in but looks awesome so far.
 
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