Sealent question

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Alright I am getting supplies ready for a good spring cleaning and I almost have all my shopping done but I have one question. I am pretty new at alot of this and have never heard of sealent untill I got on this site so my question is, what is a good brand of sealent that can be bought at an auto store. and also maybe someone could give me some tips or suggestions on my plan of attack. Im first going to wash with some meg. gold class carwash. Then I am going to clay. After that I am going to use zymols cleaner polish. Then some kind of sealent. THen a wax, I am thinking of the Eagle one Nano wax but open to suggestions. THanks in advance for your help.
 
on the sealant question. the diff betwen a sealant and wax is that sealant is a name generally used around here referring to synthetic waxes, while sometimes the term wax, is directed to carnuba based waxes. the only good sealant that i was impressed with that i found at discount was "liquid glas"... its a very old sealant and to my surprise gave my cooper and my brothers white altime a very shiney reflective finish... of course i didnt leave it long ebough on my car to tell any durabilty but my brothers car still has it and after a good wash looks great and beads very well. been almost 3 months since i put it on his car.
 
im pretty new at detailing too and i bought this sealant after my friend recommended me this:

http://www.autogeek.net/mg12718.html

ive used it and it is really good. for carnauba wax check out the s100 paste wax. paste wax are durable and it will give youir paint a fine finish. plus s100 paste wax is easy on and easy off.
 
So sealent is just synthetic wax then? What is the benifit of using it and regular carnuba wax then? ALso am I right in reading that some people do more than one coat of sealent? is this for added pertection or shine? and last question is the s100 wax the wax people talk about buying at harley dealerships? Thanks again
 
Yes S100 is in the Harley shops. Yes some people layer sealants for added durability.

All products have different strengths and weaknesses.

Manufacturing any wax involves trade-offs and compromises. Some compromises are made for cost considerations. A chemist may want to use a better ingredient or add more carnauba but can't because the company has a target market price that must be met. Other compromises are made for marketing reasons. A chemist may want to make a paste wax for maximum durability but the marketing department insists on producing a less durable liquid wax because marketing research has told them a liquid wax will sell better. Other compromises are imposed by the marketplace. Multi-national manufacturers, the "Name Brands" that supply Wal-Mart, Target and K-Mart, must respond to market demand. If the largest selling product nationwide is a $10.00, liquid, cleaner/wax, guess what these companies are going to make? A whole range of $10.00 liquid, cleaner/waxes!

Smaller, niche manufacturers may target the enthusiast market with higher quality products or products designed for a specific purpose (i.e. just for dark color cars or just for light color cars). Don't dismiss these products just because you don't recognize the brand name. Yes, there is some crap out there but it's our job to sort it all out, select only the best products and present them to you in such a way that you can decide what's best for you.

Carnauba waxes vs synthetic (polymer) waxes:

Both types of products have advantages and disadvantages. Before you decide on a wax here are some things to consider:

Carnauba Waxes:

Advantages:

A darker, deeper, richer shine.
Best carnauba waxes produce a liquid, "wet-looking" surface.
Carnauba waxes tend to hide minor swirls.
Carnauba waxes bead water (tells user when to re-wax surface).

Disadvantages:

Limited durability (Carnauba starts to melt at 180 degrees F).
50% gone in 30 days, 75% gone in 60 days, re-wax in 90 days.
Some carnauba waxes harder to apply. (Require more effort to buff off).
Some carnauba waxes create chalky- white residues and stain trim moldings.
Low surface adhesion - can be removed by car washes and detergents.
More prone to water spots.
Usually requires a strong petroleum solvent base.
Can cloud and/or streak on dark color cars.
Can be difficult to apply by machine.

Polymer Waxes:

Advantages:

Longer lasting. (Most will last six months or longer)
Easy to apply.
Very bright shine.
Some synthetic waxes sheet water which reduces water spots.
Stronger surface adhesion resists detergents.
Usually easy to apply by machine.
Can be water-based or use a mild mineral spirit.

Disadvantages:

Bright shine is often referred to as sterile, lacking emotion.
(it does not allow the paints true pigment to show through)
Tends to high light or amplify minor swirls and paint imperfections.
Sheeting does not give a visual clue of when to recoat.
Some products have long cure times between coats.
 
THank you very much, that was a VERY helpfull answers, and I hope I understand it, so from reading this would I be correct in thinking that the sealent is put on for longer protections and then a regular carnube would be put on over top of it for a better wet like shine? Thanks again for all of your help I have already learned so much from this site and am eager to learn so much more.
 
I have found that Megs #20 is a very good sealant that you can find locally. Go to the Meguiars site and find a vendor near you. It was on the car over the winter and it held up great. As for the advantages/disadvantages of sealants vs. waxes, you can get around that by layering on a few coats of sealant and topping with your favorite carnauba. You get the look of the carnauba and the durability of a sealant.
 
layering with a sealant is A-OK. just make sure that the sealant and or wax doesnt contain cleaners strong enough to remove the previous layers. nxt has some cleaners but not enough to remove all of the first coat... so for 2x's nxt is ok

carnuba waxes in my opinion can layer. i have seen reasonable chanfe in durabilty, shine, wetness, ect from additional coats of waxes. one coat of #16 lasted 2 months on my moms car. i put 2 coats agian and its been 3 mnths and beads really well...just remember that instead of adding an extra layer with a carnuba, what u're actually doing is giving it a more thciker and even coat, which in the end give good results...

dont get too tied up in the idea that sealant and then wax is the only way to go. some members in this forum tend to really only worry about durabilty (longer than 2-4 months) when its winter season and washing and adding wax to the car is a problem... most of us probably dont elave a sealnt onlong enough on our own cars to tell the difference...

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