Satin and/or Matte Black Paint Finishes

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SHIFT_Disturber

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Hello All,



A friend of mine from Rennlist told me about this site and I thought I would come check it out. Lots of good info around here it seems, and I was hoping someone would be able to help me regarding my latest project car.



I will be repainting my 996 in a satin black (i think this is the right term, isn't it? What is the difference between Matte, Flat and Satin?)



I'm trying to get the blackest black as I can, while still keeping that rough finished look to it, much like this Ferrari 599 and Lotus Elise, even darker if possible.



How do I go about achieving this? Is it a special paint called "satin black"? Or do you just paint your base coats with whatever darkness of black you want, and then when it comes time to clearcoat, you add a flatening agent to the clearcoat and then paint it on.



Thanks in advance, I look forward to starting the project! :D





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I've always thought that flat is flatter than matte, but I could be wrong. So the prgression would be: flat, matte, satin, gloss.
 
DigTheRide said:
I've always thought that flat is flatter than matte, but I could be wrong. So the prgression would be: flat, matte, satin, gloss.
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that sounds right to me. just curious how do you maintain a finish like that? what do you put on it as an lsp for instance, again just curious?
 
Not that I have tried this personally, but a friend of mine has a satin black finish on his 4Runner and he uses Pledge. Yes, that's right... Pledge. Says it works great and is relatively easy to take off. Never been around when he actually did it but I have seen the results and it always looks good.
 
Guys, don' t forget his original question. He is wanting to know how to paint the car to get these results. You are correct in assuming that you will first spray the base and then follow with a clear with a flattening agent in it. You will just have to test how much flattener you want in the clear by shooting test panels until you get the desired result.
 
The flat or satin look has to do with the paint composition, and the clear composition.



Not all clear coats are glossy, you can have a flat or a satin clear put on the car. I am sure that is what is done with that Ferrari.



So the paint needs to be just a flat black. That color can be whatever you want. The clear then needs to be the appropriate level of gloss for you. There are choices there, so pick what you want.



Remember that flat means absolutely no gloss. Satin is a very light gloss, almost like a silk-like texture.
 
Some of those may not be even painted.



I bet some are covered with just black film. Can be removed and protects the paint under at the same time.
 
Ignition said:
Some of those may not be even painted.



I bet some are covered with just black film. Can be removed and protects the paint under at the same time.
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Really?



I am pretty sure they are painted. This seems to be the newest "hot paint job". I just cant help thinking that in a few years when there is something else new will it hurt the value of your 996? I love the look, very nasty and mean...but will you be happy with your $10K paint job in 5 years or 10 years. Just throwing it out there.
 
IMG 1747 looks like a bad paint job to me. Looks like they didnt paint the jambs and the interesection of the A-pillar you can see a small bubble (which I guess could be on a sticker too). Hmm, that is an interesting theory.



I'm still not sure I would do that to my Porsche.
 
Well believe it or not, it can be done. Over here there was lots of city buses taped all over with different colout and printed logos. Including windows and all, they had some feedback about the windows that they made it difficult to see outside. (window area had taping with small holes, like a mesh)
 
Oh, I know it can be done. Most race cars now are just big stickers and not paint. I just cant figure out why youd put a sticker on a Ferrari?
 
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