Saab 95 Neo - paint correction - with results by KC

[corvetteman]

My girlfriend just ordered klasse after i spoke about it for 3 weeks. My question is what is more effective to layer the aio or the sg for a black car? which do people use more. After we get the klasse I really think my girlfriend needs some pinnacle and a pc. I just really think she could use them for her car. LOL as long as I get to use them. By the way her car is silver. Will it help her car also?

 

[imported_doug]

AIO has cleaners - it will remove other layers inclluding SG - so probably not much value in layering it. So you want a clean car, an AIO base, and then SG on top of that. It will be fine on silver.

 

[corvetteman]

Thanks carguy. I saw a new body style yesterrday. Totally changed my mind. it looked great.

 

[dengelson]

Greg's steering you the right way. The AIO is a non-abrasive cleaner. All by itself it does a darn good job of shining up a vehicle. However applying several coats of SG over the AIO will increase the shine, smoothness and durability.

I lent my PC and AIO to good friend this weekend. I explained how to work the product but couldn't actually show him. Well for a first timer he achieved remarkable results by just using the AIO. He used it on a dark blue Super Duty extended cab truck and the shine looks better than ever.

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[corvetteman]

Thanks shortcut. How many coats by hand (for now) of aio would you put on a black car before going to the sg? How many coats of the sg? Will a pc make a big difference than by hand? Maybe I can talk my gf into buying a pc also? LOL

 

[dengelson]

First I would start out by claying if it is needed. Then if the paint is in good shape you can just use AIO once. If the paint is oxidized or really swirlled up I would use a mild abrasive before the AIO. Something like FI II or SMR. Then the AIO x1 then the SG x3 or more.



The PC will work great with the SMR, FI II and the AIO. I'd say that it works significantly better than applying those products by hand.

 

[corvetteman]

Thanks short cut. I cant wait!!!!!! By teh way is there any local places to buy the pc pads so I diont have to wait for them by buying them online? Sorry last question. I promise.

 

[dengelson]

I have found the pads locally but have not found a backing plate. However I'm pretty sure that it could be ordered from Finish Master. They carry Meguiar's pads and 3M pads that are 6" and velcro backed.

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[corvetteman]

Shortcut 3 words:





YOU DA MAN!

 

[dengelson]

Do you have a FinishMaster store near you?

 

[corvetteman]

Not near me but within a couple of hours. That would be a lot faster shipping. I'm in San Antonio Texas

 

[dengelson]

Well I guess I feel lucky to have one of these stores so close. They are a supplier for bodyshops and the one near me stocks a full array of Meguiar's proline products and a full line of 3M products. FinishMaster has been a great resource for these products however they don't stock stuff like glass cleaner, 303, washmits etc.

 

[Buds]

Call some of the local auto paint suppliers in town. I bought some 3M pads locally a few weeks ago, unfortunatley the do not carry Meguiras pads. They carried alot of the Meguiars and 3M products, they even sold KLASSE. I am sure someplace in San Antonio carries pads. If you find one that sells the Meguires pads let me know I prefer them to the 3M pads. If you can't find a place in San Antonio I have found a few places in Austin that carry the 3M pads.

 

[corvetteman]

Thanks for the suggestion I will do that. My gf already ordered klasse thru the group buy but hopefully i can get a pc and pads locally.

 

[laynlow]

The O'Reilly Auto Parts stores in my area stock the Meguiars pads. They are really convenient to buy from. You might check that out also.

 

[corvetteman]

I have an oreily. do they have a 6 inch velcro backing plate to fit a pc?

 

[laynlow]

Sorry, I don't know if they stock the backing plate on not. I've had mine for a long time. Look on the Meguiars web site, and make note of the part number. Then just give em' a shout. If your O'Reilly is also a paint supplier, then you odds of success are higher. If they don't stock it they can might order it (mine will).

 

[kc's]

We had another hands on intense paint correctional class yesterday, another crash course - learning how to be a one day pilot

lesson start with washing - the car correctly - ONR

some young participant

some mature participants - on hands for paint correction - heavy stuff

paint before correction - after wash & clay

unavoidable swirls , RIDS & water mark

before pic

mostly contributed by the choice of cloths - esp - good morning cotten terry towel - ta da

as for me - i would choose plushy microfibers towel - contaminant pick during wash

surface contaminant pick during clay

otherwise it will be push further in when correctional carried out - removing the root cause

cheapest & best QD around - dilutables- for clay

the balance of ONR - left used for wheels washing

a 50/50 % compassionate before & after from left angle

paint issue - to be corrected

what we did was to segregate a few areas to test out the product & how it react over certain machine reaction
1st area for waxing with rotary

2nd area for consumer product with DA- basic polisher

wax applied prior polish

on rotary???

our host is given a chance to kick start 1st

2nd area for consumer range product

our pro - amateur detailer to be 2nd in line

look at the 123 steps of applications - in sequence

massage in like KBM - 3/4 twist with yr pure hands -

master at work

paint condition - there is much more much more paint damages that is unable to pick uo by our cameras

more

3rd contestant on rotary - with optimum hyper spray compound

lastly me - on rotary - with optimum hyper spray compound & stepping down from wool - cutting- polishing & finishing

results unveiling
one by one

 

[kc's]

Saab 95 Neo - paint correction with astonishing results by KC

We had another hands on intense paint correctional class yesterday, another crash course - learning how to be a one day pilot

lesson start with washing - the car correctly - ONR

some young participant

some mature participants - on hands for paint correction - heavy stuff

paint before correction - after wash & clay

unavoidable swirls , RIDS & water mark

before pic

mostly contributed by the choice of cloths - esp - good morning cotten terry towel - ta da

as for me - i would choose plushy microfibers towel - contaminant pick during wash

surface contaminant pick during clay

otherwise it will be push further in when correctional carried out - removing the root cause

cheapest & best QD around - dilutables- for clay

the balance of ONR - left used for wheels washing

a 50/50 % compassionate before & after from left angle

paint issue - to be corrected

what we did was to segregate a few areas to test out the product & how it react over certain machine reaction
1st area for waxing with rotary

2nd area for consumer product with DA- basic polisher

wax applied prior polish

on rotary???

our host is given a chance to kick start 1st

2nd area for consumer range product

our pro - amateur detailer to be 2nd in line

look at the 123 steps of applications - in sequence

massage in like KBM - 3/4 twist with yr pure hands -

master at work

paint condition - there is much more much more paint damages that is unable to pick uo by our cameras

more

3rd contestant on rotary - with optimum hyper spray compound

lastly me - on rotary - with optimum hyper spray compound & stepping down from wool - cutting- polishing & finishing

results unveiling
one by one

 

[kc's]

product well worked out'

product test - swipe with yr finger to test whether the products worked out properly or not

1st area Wax with china make rotary???

hologram was visible once we remove the wax

2nd area consumer range product

before

after

visible cuts is still there


moving on the 3rd area - optimum hyper spray compound - with LC cutting pad & rotary

results unveils -
results base on the level of correction, gloss restored & clarity with depth

1st area
wax with machines

lack of correction & gloss & very little clarity

2nd area consumer (OTC) product with DA

better but lack of clarity & definition

3rd area Optimum hyper spray compound with LC cutting pad with makita

lastly
the 4th area - done with optimum hyper spray compound through out till finishing - with makita
wool - cutting pad- polishing pad - finishing pad
one product finish

a compilation picture

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now mastering in rotary class

serious lesson going on

look how intense each participants is

mamamia - look at the finishing product

IPA - wipe down prior opti seal & wax

now the car is protected by Opti seal & Optimum car wax


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ta da pics

before

after wax by rotary

after

gloss restore

eleggantly yours

reflection

gloss

Dog scratches after remove - iwill get the before pic for u

more after dog scratches remove

possible pic

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before

before

after when u sent it to the road side - car wash for a quick wax polish 'so called"

hologram was visible once we remove the wax

before pic