Review : Which glaze really does hide swirls

Accumulator

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JJ- Thanks, but you might be way ahead of me on this topic, at least with regard to current products.



I hardly ever use anything like this other than the SRP...been years since I used my Pinnacle PCL (and it's still the very old version!). I did use 1Z WaxPolishSoft on the Yukon a few years ago, and that stuff conceals mild flaws OK. I have a bottle of DWG I plan to use on something, some day but so far it's just sat on the shelf.



But whatever product like this I'm using, I pretty much always apply it via Cyclo or PC. If I were to use the rotary with SRP I'd probably create a bunch of holograms, which I wouldn't see right away since the SRP would probably conceal them.
 
Hey guys,



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I had a few hours spare today and I thought about this. I have always been on the eye out for a Glaze or Polish which hides/masks or reduces swirls without being as abrasive as a polish.



Obviously this lets a few entrants in, in the time frame I had I picked some popular products which you hear mentioned on Autopia and DW.



So lets go,



Swissvax Cleaner Fluid (pre wax oil) the hint is in the name.

AG SRP

Zymol HD

Autosmart Cherry Wax

Poorboys Blackhole

Megs no.3 - so dissapointed with this.





There are two other products not really anything to do with glaze but I had a request from my C1 vs Aquartz test. So they have been included to see if they help to hide anything. The request comes from here http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=170993



So onto the test, the side of the panel I chose has some minor swirls and marring from washing. This VW paint marr's so easily !! it is a royal pain in the ***. Black is not a colour it's a full time job!!



I washed the car and then proceeded to do a Klasse AIO polish of said area and then an ISO Alchohol wipe down.



This left us with an area ready to mask - school boy error I ran out of blue masking tap and had to use the white stuff it was rubbish!!! :lol:



I taped everything up and then proceeded to name the areas, I didn't get round to testing every glaze/polish etc, helped when I was photographing them.



First up was AG SRP.



The before picture actually looks quite horrendous :confused: which I suppose it is ! I used SRP with the rotary at speed 900rpm as many of us on this forum would use it via machine. I would have done it by hand but to be honest I don't think a lot of people use SRP by hand once they have been on DW or Autopia for a while.



In addition, most of Joe public wouldn't use these products until they knew a little about detailing. So I presumed this would be acceptable.



Quite staggered by the finish, I stopped half way and noticed circular clear coat damage from the SRP so this is certainly more aggressive than I realised it has since been upgraded to sit next to 3m UF.



The good thing about SRP is that it leaves a protective finish, the bad thing is that it reminds of all the car shows I used to goto when I would rather be in my bed :lol:



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So next up is Aquartz



Obviously this is not a glaze but I had to include it as this test stemmed from my original post. Aquartz did what it was supposed to do, left a noticeable layer, I could spot this as I stopped polish to the tap as I was dragging the cheap glue from underneath. There was a certain difference on the coated and non coated area.



Very happy with the results did what it was supposed to do, funnily enough in the detailing world sometimes this is hard to find.



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C1



This again was just added to compliment my other test. This appeared to actually fill some minor marring

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Megs no.3



This is a paintable glaze. It really cleaned the paint up but it didn't leave any "glaze" behind as the name suggests. EPIC FAIL.



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Zymol HD Cleanse.



I have always rated this product, it leaves behind a heavy glaze and also smells pretty tasty. Possibly one of the best performers, the pictures are pretty ****ty though.



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Poorboys Blackhole



This is a product I have tried umpteen ways. I tried by hand today to see if it helped any !! This with a doubt leaves a very smooth finish but I really don't think it is worthy of such a good reputation.



I have tried via, Rotary, Hand and PC. Everytime it does the same thing, masks the light marks but somehow makes the larger swirls seem worse. Exactly like this.

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At this stage it was time for PIZZA



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Next up was the Swissvax Pre Wax. I thought this would be similar to zymol, it is NOTHING like it. Very runny, very oily, long work time.



I actually wouldn't mind trying this on the whole car to help feed the paint, its a great wee product. Masks some swirls not much but I just liked the high oil content especially the fact I snowfoam the car every week.



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After

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I apologise for the lack of quality in the pictures it is exceedingly difficult to capture some of the marring in the light I was dealing with. I had two 500w halogens and my brinkman but I just couldn't hold my brinkman and focus the camera lol!!



My overall thoughts are this.



Zymol HD is the clear winner by hand



AG SRP is the clear winner by machine, however it is far more aggressive than I thought.



Swissvax is a lovely wee product, great for feeding the paintwork, very impressed. I imagine this and Best of Show or Souvern would make a great team.



Any comments feel free, I tried to conduct this test as fair as possible and by trying to think how others would use the products, bearing in mind this is a post by a member for members.



I imagine most Joe public's would struggle to tell the different in finish, so I catered this more for the intermediate detailer. :D



Finally NO waxes were added and since I was pushed for time not every product pictured was used. :(
 
JJ_ said:
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First up was AG SRP.



The before picture actually looks quite horrendous :confused: which I suppose it is ! I used SRP with the rotary at speed 900rpm as many of us on this forum would use it via machine. I would have done it by hand but to be honest I don't think a lot of people use SRP by hand once they have been on DW or Autopia for a while.



...Quite staggered by the finish, I stopped half way and noticed circular clear coat damage from the SRP so this is certainly more aggressive than I realised..



IMO SRP isn't really suitable for use by rotary, but is rather a by hand/RO/DA product. I bet more people world-wide use it by hand than any other way. I myself usually do it via Cyclo.



Please don't take the preceding as a knock of your test.
 
Not at all accumulator. I use on the rotary at 900rpm I imagine it would stay "wetter" by pc etc. Still a staggering finish with rotary but it certainly has more abrasive properties than I first assumed.



Thank for chiming in accumulator, I always like to hear your response.
 
JJ_ said:
Not at all accumulator. I use on the rotary at 900rpm I imagine it would stay "wetter" by pc etc. Still a staggering finish with rotary but it certainly has more abrasive properties than I first assumed..



Glad I didn't come across as sounding all contentious or anything.



Funny about SRP being so aggressive...guess that's the rotary for you, sorta like how even Meguiar's #9 can do some work via rotary. I'm always using SRP via *NON*-rotary means and thinking to myself how gentle the abrasives are that way, pretty much functionally nonabrasive.



I wonder how the SRP (by hand/RO/DA/etc.) would compare with the HDC :think: It sure beat out the presumably similar Pinnacle PCL and P21s GEPC when I tried them all on my Jag.
 
I honestly would try the HDC, I have a feeling HDC would dry out very quickly or clump with any real heat so possibly the DA is the way to go. I like to use HDC on solid colours to restore the lustre and further increase gloss.



I have followed your posts and follow you wash technique to the letter pretty much, always think your posts are constructive and you are much more experienced than I am.
 
Do you think I would get better results if working Poorboys Blackhole with a DA ? I just don't understand what it would be working in ?
 
black03mach said:
I like HD Cleanse alot, but it can be a real bear to remove if it sits on the paint longer than 5 seconds lol



Yes exactly ... you need damp pad .... I like HD-Cleanse smells and performance but i don't like use it too much !

some guys said lusso prewax similar HD-Cleanse but the customer service in lusso very bad ....when i said i want to buy some sample pots and bottles ..they said : you are from Autogeek !
 
Great comparison test. I do have PB's Black Hole and have been impressed with it but results vary among many users.
 
just wondering if anyone has heard of ardex seal b-its a glaze for dark paint i got a black honda to do so i am debating on that or poorboys black hole i could sure use help
 
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