im planning to start using Zaino soon. with Z1, Z2, and Z5? (the swirl remover one). just lately ive noticed my first swirl marks since i first got my car in mid 99. its only in the rear though. but anyways, what is the best products u guys have experenced to reduce swirl marks? mine are pretty small for now but i still want to use the best. i know the zaino one works good along with the whole set. but are there better ones? ive also heard good things from 3M...
removing orange peel by buffing or wetsending?
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If the swirls are very mild, then try 3M Perfect-It Swirl Mark Remover for Dark or Light cars. Zaino's Z-5 is a temporary swirl filler that masks very minor swirls.
I would try to remove it as best as you can with the Perfect-It, and fill in any micro-swirls or marring with the Z-5. Good luck!
I would try to remove it as best as you can with the Perfect-It, and fill in any micro-swirls or marring with the Z-5. Good luck!
They are compatible, just after you get the results you want from the 3M, remove the remaining oils (from 3M) with alcohal. Z-1 also has cleaning agents, so it <em class='bbc'>might[/i] remove the oils.
I'm not sure though. Any more experienced Zaniacs know more about the cleaning abilities from Z-1?
I'm not sure though. Any more experienced Zaniacs know more about the cleaning abilities from Z-1?
Not many cleaning agents. After you removed your swirls using SMR then wash with Dishsoao to remove the waxes etc so the Zaino stuff will bond.
Plus it ensures all the abrasives are off the finish so you can QD the vehicle with out fear of grinding in more swirls.
PET PEVE Road construction. Why must they sand blast concrete to fix the expansion joints? Why must they do it at rush hour?
Sorry Was stuck in traffic. BTW stay way away from them striping trucks.
Plus it ensures all the abrasives are off the finish so you can QD the vehicle with out fear of grinding in more swirls.
PET PEVE Road construction. Why must they sand blast concrete to fix the expansion joints? Why must they do it at rush hour?
Sorry Was stuck in traffic. BTW stay way away from them striping trucks.
Cybercowboy
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the more I think that Z5 is for minor scratches in the polish you have already applied. It works remarkably good for that. Not for "raw paint" though. You have to get the paint looking good first. Here, you have many options. Looking back on when I started two or three months ago, I should have got a PC orbital buffer and learned the ropes on my brother's car.
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Guess My Name [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Not many cleaning agents. After you removed your swirls using SMR then wash with Dishsoao to remove the waxes etc so the Zaino stuff will bond.
Plus it ensures all the abrasives are off the finish so you can QD the vehicle with out fear of grinding in more swirls.
PET PEVE Road construction. Why must they sand blast concrete to fix the expansion joints? Why must they do it at rush hour?
Sorry Was stuck in traffic. BTW stay way away from them striping trucks. [/b]</blockquote>
ok, ive decided to go with the 3M SMR route. so when i use it with zaino, should i use it BEFORE the Z1 or AFTER it? after i have washed the car with dish detergent that is. because if i put it after, then wash it with dish detergent again like u said, wouldnt that also wash away the Z1 i just applied?
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by Guess My Name [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Not many cleaning agents. After you removed your swirls using SMR then wash with Dishsoao to remove the waxes etc so the Zaino stuff will bond.
Plus it ensures all the abrasives are off the finish so you can QD the vehicle with out fear of grinding in more swirls.
PET PEVE Road construction. Why must they sand blast concrete to fix the expansion joints? Why must they do it at rush hour?
Sorry Was stuck in traffic. BTW stay way away from them striping trucks. [/b]</blockquote>
ok, ive decided to go with the 3M SMR route. so when i use it with zaino, should i use it BEFORE the Z1 or AFTER it? after i have washed the car with dish detergent that is. because if i put it after, then wash it with dish detergent again like u said, wouldnt that also wash away the Z1 i just applied?
Mikescustomdetail
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Hi, you may want to test the SMR first. I had difficulties with it on my San Marino Prelude. You may want to do a search on SMR and Honda/Acura. I have seen several posts about SMR leaving Micro-marring in Honda and Acura paints. I gave up on the SMR and just used Pinnacle Paintwork cleansing lotion and then Zaino. My swirls were very light and the PPCL really help them and then the Zaino covered much of what was left. Diane
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by 912mom [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Hi, you may want to test the SMR first. I had difficulties with it on my San Marino Prelude. You may want to do a search on SMR and Honda/Acura. I have seen several posts about SMR leaving Micro-marring in Honda and Acura paints. I gave up on the SMR and just used Pinnacle Paintwork cleansing lotion and then Zaino. My swirls were very light and the PPCL really help them and then the Zaino covered much of what was left. Diane [/b]</blockquote>wow, thanks for the heads up
<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by 912mom [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Hi, you may want to test the SMR first. I had difficulties with it on my San Marino Prelude. You may want to do a search on SMR and Honda/Acura. I have seen several posts about SMR leaving Micro-marring in Honda and Acura paints. I gave up on the SMR and just used Pinnacle Paintwork cleansing lotion and then Zaino. My swirls were very light and the PPCL really help them and then the Zaino covered much of what was left. Diane [/b]</blockquote>wow, thanks for the heads up
95formulalt1
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i had some painting done about a yr ago on my firebird. there is alot of orange peel on the front fenders and some runs on the pass side. i know i will bean wetsanding and i got some m105 and m205 with pads form PAC!
heres some pics to show you what im working with. i like to hear your input and what you think would work best. thank you for looking.
heres some pics to show you what im working with. i like to hear your input and what you think would work best. thank you for looking.
imported_Auto Concierge
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That is some heavy orange peel there, this would be classified as a "kids do not try this at home" situation, unless you have done this type of work before then I stand corrected.
95formulalt1
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haha ya i would say so!i have done this befor but not has big of a job. i will have to take my time and just do on fender at a time start to finish. the pics of above show the worst part of the prange peel. ill be posting pics of my progress as soon as the weather warms up a bit.
imported_Clark
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wow that is a shockingly bad paintjob!
imported_Roadrunner
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+1. I was thinking exactly the same thing.
bmw5541
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Looks like you have your work cut out of you.
Good luck, and make sure to post pics when you finish.
Good luck, and make sure to post pics when you finish.
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a) Four Star Professional Abrasive Enhancing Gel, extends sandpaper life and adds lubrication - non-toxic, use instead of water
b) 3M? Trizact? Hookit? II Clearcoat Sanding Disc - P1500 (PN 02069)- large area wet-sanding, runs damp, long lasting, excellent for texture matching and sanding contours, removes nibs and other defects, leaves a very refined finish
c) Micro-Mesh Regular finishing papers (silicon carbide grit with standard backing) - The standard grade of Micro-Mesh used for the majority of operations on plastics, paints, wood and most metals and polymers. It is used to produce a uniformly smooth surface and bring the surface to a high gloss finish. Available in grades 1500 to 12000 (30 to 2 microns)
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b) 3M? Trizact? Hookit? II Clearcoat Sanding Disc - P1500 (PN 02069)- large area wet-sanding, runs damp, long lasting, excellent for texture matching and sanding contours, removes nibs and other defects, leaves a very refined finish
c) Micro-Mesh Regular finishing papers (silicon carbide grit with standard backing) - The standard grade of Micro-Mesh used for the majority of operations on plastics, paints, wood and most metals and polymers. It is used to produce a uniformly smooth surface and bring the surface to a high gloss finish. Available in grades 1500 to 12000 (30 to 2 microns)
d) Unigrit finishing papers -http://bit.ly/6cW2TP