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Street5927

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I stopped by my buddies body shop and saw a brand new Escalade...black with yellow road paint all over it. It was on there for about a week. His worker used some reducer on a mc towel and it came off like butter. Has anyone ever heard of this? He said if it is not put on too heavily and it was washed immediately after that there would be no damage to the paint. He removed all road paint from the side including wheel wells in a out 20 minutes. It was then washed and looked as good as new. Could this cause damage to already cured clear?
 
My dad was the XO at a Navy shipyard. One day the wind shifted and the overspray from the paint job on a nearby battleship ended up on his Saab 900. There were multiple damages on multiple vehicles. THe company that came out to fix his car showed up with cans of toluene and cotton cloths to remove the paint. They fixed the glass with straight razor blades and more toluene. Keep in mind this was about 18 years ago but I waxed that car many times to get off of restriction for various offenses and I don't remember there being any issues. I do believe one of Saab's selling points at the time, was the use of clear coat paint and heavy gauge steel body panels to resist corrosion in harsh Swedish climates. Long story short, there were no issues. He had that car for 11 years.
 
That was not what is used today for vehicle finishes. Today's finishes, due to EPA/VOC regulations are much more suseptible to the resin that holds it together being compromised. IE, toulene is a "clorinated' and while things will appear fine for a year, maybe two, however, over time, damage will appear.

Grumpy
 
Ron Ketcham said:
That was not what is used today for vehicle finishes. Today's finishes, due to EPA/VOC regulations are much more suseptible to the resin that holds it together being compromised. IE, toulene is a "clorinated' and while things will appear fine for a year, maybe two, however, over time, damage will appear.

Grumpy
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In that regard, it would seem we have taken a step backward when it comes to finish durability. Single stage was extremely susceptible to damage from all sorts of things, and then with the advent of VOC-heavy clear coats finishes became much more durable. Now, thanks to VOC regulations we're getting finish materials which are not as durable again.



Guess the positive thing is we have a case to make to vehicle owners as to why they absolutely must keep things protected from the environment. And with all these permanent and semi-permanent coatings, there are very viable options to do so.
 
Shiny Lil Detlr said:
In that regard, it would seem we have taken a step backward when it comes to finish durability. Single stage was extremely susceptible to damage from all sorts of things, and then with the advent of VOC-heavy clear coats finishes became much more durable. Now, thanks to VOC regulations we're getting finish materials which are not as durable again.



Guess the positive thing is we have a case to make to vehicle owners as to why they absolutely must keep things protected from the environment. And with all these permanent and semi-permanent coatings, there are very viable options to do so.
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Well said. From a detailing point of view today's water based clearcoats are in need of more meticulous and regular care than older paints
 
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