Recommend a glaze....

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AlexRuiz

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I know, I know, a true autopian removes swirls, not hides them. But what if removing them is not an option?



A friend of my dad has a '68 mustang, still original paint. The car was his daily driver up to a few years ago, and got quite beaten. Somehow he realized the value the car held and stopped driving it (maybe he already knew, but didn't have money to promote to status of garage queen) Restoration process started. The paint was already hazed, and after some detailing work the paint got back to life. Problem is the shop who took care of it told him to be careful as repeated polish would thin it even more (I assume they went crazy doing paint removal). They suggested NO more polish, and he wants to keep the original paint.



This guys saw my dad's white corsa a few days ago (claybar, transtar tri-cut and final finish polishes applied with Propel green and blue pads, eagle one nano, mothers sealer and glaze, mothers reflections as final topper) The car looks as good as white allows, and this guy asked my dad about the detailer. Dad said we did it.



Now his friend wants us to treat the car. I already checked it and in fact it has swirl marks. My idea was a mild cleaner wax (NXT, turtle ultra) and then top it with collinite #845 (insulator wax), #16 or a similar carnauba. No polish allowed, but I don't want to leave shiny swirls..... I thought about glaze. Mothers sealer and glaze is good for mild swirls, but some are quite bigger.



Suggest me a glaze? Is there anything else I can do? I thought about a sealant. UPP, EX, FMJ, Z5? Personally, no sealant can't touch a carnauba on red, but I can try.





Alex
 
Not sure if you have checked out Meg #80, not too aggressive ,it does get rid of some minor swirls and leaves a nice shiny finish. it is also very easy to use with a pc. maybe Aio can help a bit as well if they do not want to risk the #80 . hope this is the direction you were looking to go good luck
 
The PROPER answer is to use an electronic paint thickness guage.



Getting access to one may be a hassle, but it is the honest way to evaluate the film build.





Jim
 
You should use a paint thickness gauge.



Depending on the results, you would use the appropriate polish - the lightest polish first.



If you can polish the car, I would DEFINATELY follow up with Meguairs #7. This product is made for the older paints like on this Mustang. I would do multiple coats allowing them to sit in order to absorb and re-condition the paint.



I found a couple fabulous threads about the uses of #7 on older paint by Mike Phillips. This will be of great use.



http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1747&perpage=10&pagenumber=2



http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23740



Here are the search results for "single stage" paint.



http://autopia.org/forums/search.ph...d=751093&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending



If you can't use a polish, I would use a chemical cleaner like Meguiars Medallion Paint Cleaner, Color X, or AIO since they do not contain abrasives. I would first try it in a small spot and re-test with the gauge to just to be sure.



Mike Phillips recommends using #7 FIRST, then polish, then go back to #7 and then wax.



If you do use #7, I would follow with #16. Two old school products to go perfect with the old school paint job.



I would also clay the car.



Maybe you can do the ABC or Finish Kare wash (see link) for decontamination? I am not certain if you can with this finish so hopefully someone can answer better - I don't know.



http://www.fk1usa.com/products-professional.htm#decontamination
 
I agree with Spilchy-#7 and #16 would be a killer combo and were made for the type of paint that would be on the Mustang.
 
Spilchy said:
You should use a paint thickness gauge.



Depending on the results, you would use the appropriate polish - the lightest polish first.



If you can polish the car, I would DEFINATELY follow up with Meguairs #7. This product is made for the older paints like on this Mustang. I would do multiple coats allowing them to sit in order to absorb and re-condition the paint.



I found a couple fabulous threads about the uses of #7 on older paint by Mike Phillips. This will be of great use.



http://www.meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=1747&perpage=10&pagenumber=2



http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23740



Here are the search results for "single stage" paint.



http://autopia.org/forums/search.ph...d=751093&sortby=lastpost&sortorder=descending



If you can't use a polish, I would use a chemical cleaner like Meguiars Medallion Paint Cleaner, Color X, or AIO since they do not contain abrasives. I would first try it in a small spot and re-test with the gauge to just to be sure.



Mike Phillips recommends using #7 FIRST, then polish, then go back to #7 and then wax.



If you do use #7, I would follow with #16. Two old school products to go perfect with the old school paint job.



I would also clay the car.



Maybe you can do the ABC or Finish Kare wash (see link) for decontamination? I am not certain if you can with this finish so hopefully someone can answer better - I don't know.



http://www.fk1usa.com/products-professional.htm#decontamination
Click to expand...



I believe Mike Phillips stated on MOL that ColorX did indeed contain diminishing abrasives. In my experience using it, it does have a bit of "cut." I will try to find the thread.....
 
ebpcivicsi- I couldn't locate the thread but found this...





ColorX is an extra strength cleaner/wax which will restore the colour to any finish by cleaning and removing defects, oxidation, dirt build-up in the paint, as wells as general degradation

Mike
 
Meguiars Medallion Paint Cleaner has abrasives. If you want to clean the paint without abrasives, use AIO or Meg's DC1.



3M IHG is a pure glaze.
 
Thanks for all the suggestions guys. Great links by Spilchy. I'll see if I can get a piant gauge.



I'll report later





Alex
 
3M Imperial Machine Glaze works wonders with a PC, but the paint is only 6 years old not almost 40. It does leave a nice shine on a black car.
 
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