Question about ONR use

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When using ONR, which is better a MF towel or Sheepskin? When done with the upper panels, should you dump the wash and rinse buckets and refill them for the lower panels? Should I double the reccomended required amount of ONR when adding it to the wash bucket?



When washing normally, (with GC soap), do you have to dump the WASH bucket and refill it after you do the wheels, and before you do the top? Do you dump it again when you reach the lower panels? I recall that you should, but I am not so sure. Thanks.



Basically, what I'm trying to ask is, WHEN do you dump and refill the wash and rinse buckets for regular washing and ONR use? Thanks.
 
I like to use sheepskin



I start with the top panels and work my way down, once at the bottom of the car I use a MF towel and hit the lower panels that are generally more dirty. Then I take a another towel and do the wheels



That way the cleanest water is on the most surfaces then i work my way down with the dirtier water all the way to the wheels.



Then I dry the car off with an absorber then use Z8 or Z6 to finish it off
 
ONR, for myself and many others . . . seems to work more effectivly with a cotton or mf chenelle mitt, or sheepskin mitt.



My intial expierience with it involved the use of a mf wash mit, and it was not as effective a wash tool as the sheepskin mits i use now.



using the recomended ammount of ONR as perscribed on the bottle will give you the best results (not to sound shrud, but that is why they put the label there) using more, IMO, is a waste of product.



you can add some ONR to your rinse bucket of you like ( i also think that is a waste, but to each his own)



Emptying out your rinse bucket after the upper panals might not be a bad idea, but why woudl you want to dump out your ONR wash bucket which shouls still be clean . . . again, i think you would be wasting product.



As long as you use a two bucket method, or a grit guard in just one bucket, I do not see a reason to dump your wash bucket out at any time, until your all done washing. Obviously certain, extreme exceptions would apply (like your buddies f350 that just saw a day of wheeling in tahoe).



Keep in mind i base my oppinions with the intention of trying to use the least ammount of product possible to yeild safe, effective results. When you do that, you save money long term. I have yet to see any marring or wash induced defects to paint finishes that i wash via ONR or regular foam gun or 2 bucket methods . . . .thanks of coarse to adivce from expierienced rinsless wash masters here on autopia. ; )



hope my oppinion helps you some . .
 
fdizzle said:
ONR, for myself and many others . . . seems to work more effectivly with a cotton or mf chenelle mitt, or sheepskin mitt.



My intial expierience with it involved the use of a mf wash mit, and it was not as effective a wash tool as the sheepskin mits i use now.



using the recomended ammount of ONR as perscribed on the bottle will give you the best results (not to sound shrud, but that is why they put the label there) using more, IMO, is a waste of product.



you can add some ONR to your rinse bucket of you like ( i also think that is a waste, but to each his own)



Emptying out your rinse bucket after the upper panals might not be a bad idea, but why woudl you want to dump out your ONR wash bucket which shouls still be clean . . . again, i think you would be wasting product.



As long as you use a two bucket method, or a grit guard in just one bucket, I do not see a reason to dump your wash bucket out at any time, until your all done washing. Obviously certain, extreme exceptions would apply (like your buddies f350 that just saw a day of wheeling in tahoe).



Keep in mind i base my oppinions with the intention of trying to use the least ammount of product possible to yeild safe, effective results. When you do that, you save money long term. I have yet to see any marring or wash induced defects to paint finishes that i wash via ONR or regular foam gun or 2 bucket methods . . . .thanks of coarse to adivce from expierienced rinsless wash masters here on autopia. ; )



hope my oppinion helps you some . .
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OK so, to make this more clear.



Do not dump/refill WASH bucket during entire wash, it is not neccessary (this applies to both GC wash and ONR).



Dump/refill RINSE bucket after wheels, and when finished with upper panels (so dump//refill twice).



Start with wheels, then roof, upper back panel, upper mid panel, upper front panel. Then lower back panel, lower mid panel, lower front panel. Then wash should be finished. Is this correct?



How many times should the mitt be rinsed per panel?



Yes I am anal, lol. I get OCD if I think I have my process wrong! Thanks for your help.
 
Try em both, see which one you like better. I have absolutely zero preference in regards to performance, but will use mf if I'm on a time budget, because I just use it till it gets too dirty for me then grab another. Using this method, I tend to use about 6-8 for washing.
 
After going through a bottle of the stuff with both a sheepskin mitt and a MF towel, I am leaning toward the sheepskin only because it seems to glide a little better. The benefit of the MF towel is that it can be refolded after every swipe, exposing a clean surface if you like.



I use only a single bucket, but pre-spray moderately soiled areas.



I dedicate a 1 gal bucket for just the wheels and do those first. A 5 gal bucket with a little less than two gallons does the rest of the car.
 
Ok so I have one question. On a normal wash, you typically do the wheels first, then dump and refill the rinse and wash buckets. Then you move on to the top of the car with your fresh mix and then to the bottom without dumping. Is this correct?



Im just trying to figure out when its appropriate to dump the wash and rinse buckets during either a GC wash or a ONR wash.
 
Dump when you feel the water is dirty enough to effect the solution you're putting on the paint. Much of the time, the dirt will settle to the bottom and won't transfer from your wash material to the paint.



Just a simple suggestion, most of your questions about this could be contained in one thread, no need to make a new thread for every single question.
 
I like to do my wheels,tires, and fenderwells with one bucket and the rest of the car with another bucket.
 
I use two sheepskins...one for top half second for bottom half



I'll save the ONR in my bucket after washing the paint and the next time I do a wash I'll use that saved ONR on the wheels. I use brushes and old MF for wheels/tires
 
Ok, but what I am asking is, is it neccessary to dump the wash bucket AFTER the top panel and BEFORE the bottom panel when you wash the paint? Can I just keep the same wash water through the whole process (excluding wheels)?
 
I keep the same wash bucket for the top and bottom sections of the car. Then I use another bucket for wheels, tires and fenderwells.
 
thesacrifice said:
I'll save the ONR in my bucket after washing the paint and the next time I do a wash I'll use that saved ONR on the wheels.
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I do the same whether ONR or GC\other shampoo. :2thumbs:
 
I wouldn't use a mitt or a sponge for a no rinse wash any more than I'd use a mitt to wipe down a counter.

The mitt works great for a wet wash, but the mechanics are very different. In a wet wash, the tool (mitt) is used to aggregate adhering material into the (soap) solution where it can be subsequently rinsed off. In a no rinse ONR wash, the tool is used to wipe the dirt off the surface. I feel that the waffle weave microfiber towel works best for this.



I spray (top down) ONR (QD mix @ 6oz/gal), using a 1.5qt. pump sprayer, then use a warm water rinse bucket with the waffle weave MF towel. Some areas that are very clean (like the top and hood) may receive a QD like treatment while other areas will see the spray followed by the wet rinse towel (to remove the dirt), then the dry towel. Clean towels are rotated in as necessary. Note that using this method, the rinse water quickly contains a fair amount of ONR. I do the wheels last. I rarely see the need to change the rinse water, but this depends on how dirty the vehicle is and if the water is too dirty, you bet I'd change it!



For a wet wash, IF you use strong cleaners and do the wheels first, then of course you start fresh before washing the paint. If you'll just use regular wash water and do the wheels last, then perhaps you just use the same solution for the wheels that you used for the paint.

For a wet wash, I always cleaned the wheels/tires first, then changed out the water to clean the paint. But with ONR washes, I'm doing the wheels/tires last and this seems to be working very well.
 
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