QD--gimme the real story

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Joe K -- 01 Green

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I 've been on this site for a couple of months now and have always seen people say after a wash or between waxes or daily give it a QD.



Well, I bought some a couple weeks ago and the first time I used it was sort of --so what,,,,



I've got a 01 Miata with 2 coats of Zymol on--let's not start on the +/- of Zymol, it's coming off in the fall and I'll be following a different path. Anyway as you might think the surface had a lot of minor scratches/swirls , etc.



So tonite with my wife yakking with her girl friend, I went out to the garage with my QD for another round (washwed earlier today.



I did the whole car, then went back and did the hood/truck and really gave it some pressure--look's a whole bunch better--doesn't even look like scratches are there. now I know this isn't going to last etc, etc.



The point is--how much pressure for a QD?? How much of a difference does it make.. Now anxious to try it on my Explorer which has 26 on it.



comments please
 
You don't really use any pressure when quick detailing. Just enough to keep the towel on the surface.



I actually don't QD vehicles with dirt on them. I prefer to wash them if I can and I'll only use a quick detailer on light dust.
 
Well, I hear what all you guys are saying and that's exactly how I used it the first time and I came away with nearly no impact on the surface--QD and MF was used.



Last nite was QD and a terry and I guess lite to moderate pressure on just the hood and trunk--it really made a diff
 
Isn't QD normally advised to remove bug & bird residue from the surface? Because if so, these products are incredibly hard to remove without fairly significant pressure.
 
Not always. :confused: I usually can get most bird bombs off alright if I just let it soak for a bit first. I'm not sure QD is supposed to be used for bug splatter though. I don't remember my QDs ever mentioning that.



I'm not sure what happened in your case Joe, but QDing should normally be done with as little pressure as possible. The only time when using any pressure sometimes helps is if you're trying to buff out some stubborn residue.
 
It sounds like you are expecting some sort of "results" from QDing and in my experience the QDing does not do anything beyond helping to remove dust or dirt without having to wash. My truck shines after I QD but no more than it does after washing and drying. I thought that was all I could expect from QDing.



Maybe I am wrong but I thought that QDing was primarily a quick and easy fix sort of thing so I didn't have to wash a slightly dirty truck. I don't have any expectations beyond that so I'm pretty easy to please when it come to QDing :)
 
Qding is one of those areas where experiences are all over the map. Other than bird bombs and severe bug splatters (yes, it works great on bugs) and even then ONLY ON AN OTHERWISE CLEAN CAR (if not clean, I just wash it), I ONLY use QD's after I wash. In MY experience, it gives an extra "pop" and slickness to an otherwise already great finish. Sometmes it's a subtle difference..
 
JimS said:
Maybe I am wrong but I thought that QDing was primarily a quick and easy fix sort of thing so I didn't have to wash a slightly dirty truck. I don't have any expectations beyond that so I'm pretty easy to please when it come to QDing :)
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I do notice a slight increase in gloss after QD but there is a noticeable increase in slickness.
 
iceman said:
I do notice a slight increase in gloss after QD but there is a noticeable increase in slickness.
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I agree, but it depends on which QD you are using.



I notice a great deal of slickness with Z6, Eagle One, and Showtime, but not Meguiar's QD.



I sometimes use Meguiar's Quik Wax as a QD.....makes the surface very, very slick.....slightly more pressure is required.
 
Luster said:
I agree, but it depends on which QD you are using.



I notice a great deal of slickness with Z6, Eagle One, and Showtime, but not Meguiar's QD.



I sometimes use Meguiar's Quik Wax as a QD.....makes the surface very, very slick.....slightly more pressure is required.
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I use Z6. How would you rank the slickness between Z6, Showtime, EO Wet W&S, and Meg FI if you have tried it?
 
I notice a big difference after I use E.O.WnS. If you go over the hood roof and trunk 3 times it will fill minor swirls. Meguiars Quick Detailer wont do that.
 
It sounds like there is a misunderstanding of the basic purpose of QD. QD is not there to replace a wax, sealant, or polish. QD is a alternative to washing the car. QD serves as a lubricant to protect your paint, as you wipe of light dirt, debris and foreign matter. Water does not provide adequate lubrication by itself, but QD's will provide the lubrication to help protect your paint. Similar in purpose to car wash soap is to washing your car.



Do not expect increased shine, wetness, swirl removal, etc. I am sure some QD manufacturers probably add additive to help protect or increase shine, but thats not the primary purpose.
 
Well---some very interesting input from a variety of experienced folks--I'm not any less confused but more open to trying other product. Let me recap...



There seems to be QD and there seems to be QD; I've tried Meg's but EO seems a good bet



Some people view QD as a quick wash substitute, personally I can't concieve of taking a spray bottle to a slightly dirty car, but that's just me. I've viewed QD as a between full wax treatments.



It really did fill in some swirls, at least under garage lights--so 4 days post wash, 2 days commuting, rain...last nite it looked like about halfway back tp pre QD condition; again, QD not a substitute for real swirl/filler work.



Bottom line--helps looking good for the moment
 
Sorry Joe, but no QD fills in swirls. I suppose if you were using one that has some silicone or even carnauba in it, then there might have been some filling going on, but nothing that would stay for long. It would surprise me if EO had any carnauba in it.



A QD to me is simply to prolong the timeframe between washes. A cali duster and some QD, daily, barring any rain or very sever dust....and you can go two weeks without a wash.



One more thing to note, QDs are MUCH MUCH more effective on a well waxed surface!
 
With my CCD and QD, and God willing no rain, I can go 10-14

days between washings. I always use the CCD first to remove

the daily light dust, then QD any bug/bird doo or other stubborn

contaminants that the CCD doesn't get.



I usually end up doing a wash once a week though for

mental health if for no other reason.:p



I keep multiple layers of #26 on both my vehicles at all times too

which helps alot keeping much from sticking to the finish. I can

dust/QD both my vehicles in 10-15 minutes.
 
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