PSA- Illicit Opiate Use

Accumulator

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This is not a D.A.R.E. lecture. I couldn`t care less if people self-medicate as long as they:

a) don`t misbehave
b) remain functional

Of course, a big part of "remaining functional" is merely staying alive.

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Illicit Opiate Use is currently more widespread and more dangerous than it used to be; the potency is all over the map, generally skewing towards "stronger" for various reasons. Overdoses are more likely and, indeed, becoming more common.

If somebody is Using, they need to have someone (someone who is not doing the exact same stuff at the same time) present who is equipped, willing, and able to administer Naloxone to counteract an overdose. The days of other countermeasures being effective are gone. There isn`t always time to call 911.

If you suspect somebody is using, just assume that they are; it`s more common than one might think. Users seldom admit it to Non-users, Non-users are often in denial regarding the people they care about, and that combination can prove lethal.

Being accusatory or otherwise judgmental is no more beneficial than urging somebody to quit. Rather, doing those things can make a User more inclined towards solitude or the exclusive company of other Users, which can bode ill in the event of an overdose.

What might, just MIGHT, be beneficial is to be straightforward and objective in expressing your concerns about the possibility of an overdose. Explain that you`re worried about it and that you want to help prevent such an occurrence, and do so in a way that won`t be construed as a guilt-trip. Let the User know that you are there and willing to help.

Then, be there.

Have Naloxone on-hand and know how to administer it.

There`s no downside to having an unused dose of Naloxone sitting around (INSERT usual precautions), but there is considerable downside to *not* having it available. The cost is nominal.

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I just attended the Funeral Service for a young woman who died of an Accidental Opiate overdose. She wasn`t a close friend, but she wasn`t just a friendly acquaintance either. She was a nice person and pleasant to be around. She was good at her job and a reliable employee. She was a good mother to her seven year-old daughter. But she had a problem and it resulted in her death at age 25. She died alone in her bedroom, discovered by her mother and her daughter after it was too late.

RIP Rachael, you`ll be missed.
 
Narcan can be gotten in "pen"(similar to epi pen) form. If you can get a Dr to prescribe it and get it filled.
 
Accumulator -
I am so sorry to hear about your friend.. :(
This is so sad - especially for her young daughter who no longer has a Mother...
Thank you for thinking of us while you work through the grief that you guys must have for this loss...

My heartfelt prayers are directed to her, her family, your family, and all others that were affected..

I personally have never been a fan of Opiates because I just hate the idea of using anything that resembles opium in my body..
Thank you again for thinking about us over here..
Dan F
 
Sorry for your loss...

Yes, opiate use is out of control. PA just started a state wide drug monitoring program - and pharmacists are being a lot more pickier to who we dispense to here.

I know a lot about this subject - but, don`t really want to post about it. But these drugs are the devil.

Naloxone is legal in my state OTC (recently). But MY pharmacy doesn`t carry it. The bottom line is (and this may sound harsh), these people aren`t interested. They balk at buying a bag of needles for $4. Certainly, they aren`t paying $50 for a Naloxone syringe.
 
What are the names of the drugs? Hydrocodone is one, right? I`ll soon have to take that after surgery on the 29th. I prefer Advil because it`s more effective for me, but my ENT surgeon says to wait until I finish the hydrocodone before I take Advil.

I`ve heard of people here in Georgia getting several doctors to write them prescriptions, but I don`t see how that could be true. Even if they had several prescriptions, surely they couldn`t get those filled legally.

I used to know a hydrocodone addict who had a $400/day hydrocodone habit. That`s 20 pills at $20 each daily.
 
So sorry to hear about your friend Accumulator. However for completeness sake, Narcan can kill someone or cause serious injury in high enough doses and/or in someone who is very opiate dependent. It can precipitate seizures and heart attacks because it completely and suddenly reverses the euphoric and analgesic properties of opiates. Kinda like pulling the handbrake and slamming into 1st gear while traveling at 200 mph.
 
Thanks to all who read my post and to those who replied.

I`ve been offline as I had to deal with some [stuff] related to this. Rachel`s lifelong best friend, a person that *matters* to me and was truly devastated by this event, had taken on responsibilities shirked by others and, well...no good deed goes unpunished. The situation had to be rectified.

Quick responses to those who took the time to reply:

This wasn`t my first (or twenty-first) rodeo and well...I process the experience of Death differently from most people. My reaction to somebody`s passing is often, uhm.. misconstrued by people who don`t know me but that`s *their* problem not mine. The genuine tragedy here is that her daughter is now an orphan and will be raised by somebody whom I consider, uhm...unqualified to say the least. Too bad the Legal System is stuck in the past.

No, narcan/Naloxone isn`t without risk, but in this case it (probably) could`ve made all the difference, it did for others that weekend.

No, the User probably won`t want to bother/spend to get some, that was directed at Concerned Parties.

When I need a (real) painkiller, I do better on old-school opiates than I do on the currently popular alternatives like Oxy/Hydro. If you`re gonna be Rxed Hyro/Oxy/etc. make sure you tolerate them OK or at least have an alternative (e.g., Tylenol 4) on file.

FWIW, I`ve known people who used heavily for a *LONG* time (not just a few years) with no real problems other than some inconvenient side-effects (socially sanctioned e.g., cancer patients who didn`t die as quickly as expected). I don`t want anyone to think that I was off on an anti-drug rant of any kind. And yes, I had cautioned Rachel about being a Poster Child for Bad Decision Making, and she was well-acquainted with my quip about "Play Stupid Games, Win Stupid Prizes".

Literally scores of people ODed in the course of a weekend, apparently there was a very hot batch in circulation. Most of those people lived to tell, she didn`t.
 
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