Possible to layer glaze?

Mary B

Mary B

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If I put glaze on top of glaze am I defeating the previous layer ? I would be sealing last.

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All that glaze will wash off the first time you wash the car.. :)
One really good glaze - Meguiars Nbr-7, from decades back..
Dan F
 
Mary B said:
If I put glaze on top of glaze am I defeating the previous layer ? I would be sealing last.

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Mary



here`s my suggestion-and I`ve used this with great success several times since I started doing it

One layer of Poorboy`s Black Hole (or white hole glaze), one layer of Poorboy`s EX (the one w/carnauba). wait an hour, add another layer of EX, repeat the hour wait and EX as much as you like as the EX Will layer and it Will fill in a little bit of marring each time

now it won`t fill like a glaze but it will start to make a noticeable difference after the 3rd coat

that is what I did on the (black parts) of an Orange Charger SRT8 that had paint too thin for me to feel safe polishing very aggressively (as it was painted black over the orange and so the black was obviously much thinner than the readings would indicate)

here`s the thread-

http://www.autopia.org/forums/click-brag-the-detailers-showcase/184206-hemi-orange-charger-srt8.html?highlight=hemi+orange+on+fire

it`s a lot of work, but somebody had to do it :)
 
I`ve done 2-3 layers of black hole then used natty`s blue to get rid of dealer induce swirls on a jb bmw. Worked well

look for a thread called something like it`s a cover up
 
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1 coat:

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2 or 3 coats:

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Finished w Nattys blue:

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Next day:

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So what`s the consensus around here with using glaze then topping it? Does the glaze get sealed in? Does the glaze hurt longevity of the wax/sealant?
 
WaxAddict said:
So what`s the consensus around here with using glaze then topping it? Does the glaze get sealed in? Does the glaze hurt longevity of the wax/sealant?
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IME the glaze does get sealed in, but not necessarilly for as long as the LSP lasts (issues can "come back" while the LSP is still healthy). IMO it`s still worth doing and *no*, to my surprise (and contrary to what a lot of people have said on the internet), I`ve never had an underlying Glaze hurt the longevity of my LSP, not when I first did a comparison back in the `70s, and not now.

But I do believe that this is one of those !YMMV! things as there are just so many variables, so if you roll the dice I hope it works out for you the same as it did for me.
 
This thread has made me curious, let`s say that glaze does affect LSP longevity. Has anyone ever sandwiched the glaze, i.e., sealant or montan wax | layer of glaze | sealant or montan wax or LSP, between LSP`s?
 
TheMeanGreen said:
This thread has made me curious, let`s say that glaze does affect LSP longevity. Has anyone ever sandwiched the glaze, i.e., sealant or montan wax | layer of glaze | sealant or montan wax or LSP, between LSP`s?
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Just to add to (or counter, I don`t know which) that, wouldn`t putting a glaze on top of an LSP reduce the effectiveness of the glaze?
 
FIDOAG14 said:
Just to add to (or counter, I don`t know which) that, wouldn`t putting a glaze on top of an LSP reduce the effectiveness of the glaze?
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I maybe, but when I typed that, I wasn`t paying the upmost attention to the posts. I thought that Ronkh had layered an LSP and not a glaze in the pictures above. However 512detail had success in layering EX w/nuba, so it had me thinking, one layer of protection that kind of fills, then add glaze to fill, then seal.
 
TheMeanGreen- I never tried sandwiching the glaze like that. As you figured, the trick would be figuring out the 1st Layer LSP-to-glaze compatibility.

I wouldn`t bother as a) I think that challenge could be daunting, b) I don`t think the underlying LSP layer would contribute anything of significance, and c) you`ll be redoing it often enough that doing any unnecessary extras wouldn`t be worth *my* time.

And I sorta suspect that the *vast* majority of glazes are gonna do their thing best when in direct contact with the paint. Anything that might cause the glaze to "die off" quicker would only hasten the (already likely to be frequent) redos.
 
Accumulator said:
TheMeanGreen- I never tried sandwiching the glaze like that. As you figured, the trick would be figuring out the 1st Layer LSP-to-glaze compatibility.

I wouldn`t bother as a) I think that challenge could be daunting, b) I don`t think the underlying LSP layer would contribute anything of significance, and c) you`ll be redoing it often enough that doing any unnecessary extras wouldn`t be worth *my* time.

And I sorta suspect that the *vast* majority of glazes are gonna do their thing best when in direct contact with the paint. Anything that might cause the glaze to "die off" quicker would only hasten the (already likely to be frequent) redos.
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That`s what I was thinking, was just curious to see what you guys thought.
 
I think Ron, or someone equally as uninformed with bad taste in cars, has suggested keeping glaze on the car while you apply the wax. Specifically BH then NB. That has worked for me. Mixing glaze and wax has also given me great results, although notwithstanding longevity.
 
WaxAddict said:
I think Ron, or someone equally as uninformed with bad taste in cars, has suggested keeping glaze on the car while you apply the wax. Specifically BH then NB. That has worked for me. Mixing glaze and wax has also given me great results, although notwithstanding longevity.
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hhmmmmmmmmm

My uninformed opinion is that you are correct. But sometimes I leave it on, sometimes I wipe the haze and then apply the wax......
 
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