Porsche - "Speed Yellow" question ?

imported_doug

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In Part 1 I described my set-up and prep. With as swirl-free and clean a hood as I could muster, I applied AIO using a polishing pad and the orbital. I used about 1/2 to 1 tsp. per half the hood. My lighting set up and color of the car made it possible to see where I applied the Klasse - in this case the orbital really helped spread it around.

I worked it (speed 6 all the way) until it practically disappeared. Then I buffed it out with an Ultimate Wipe. It buffed out beautifully and left a nice shiny finish. AIO gets an A for ease of application.

Next I tried SG. This was my first time with it, so I applied it by hand with a new foam hand pad (I use the Meguiar's ones that come 4 to a pack.) This is weird stuff. It doesn't soak in to the pad much, you can't really feel it as you apply it, and it is very hard to see - so I can understand why people might put it on way too thiick. My "seeing" conditions were pretty good, and I think I probably used 2 teaspoons or less to do the whole hood. Even then I wasn't completely sure I hit every spot, so in some cases I rubbed at 90 degrees to my initial strokes to help see. I let this dry/cure for 90 minutes.

I buffed out with a clean Ultimate wipe. I did NOT find it easy to buff out. Although I didn't feel any additional friction, when I got into the right position I could see I was rubbing right over a spot where the residue wasn't all coming off. This was more easily visible in the areas where I had rubbed at 90 degrees to the first pass - not sure if this is because I got it thicker or because it was easier to see with the strokes at that angle. I then tried using some QD, which seemed to ease the buffing a good deal. Even so, I had to carefully inspect from many angles to see where I had buffed adequately, and when I backed it out into the light I found a few more spots.

It's going to be a while before I can put another layer of SG on, but when I do I'll try applying it with a soft foam pad and the orbital - this may make it more even and thin. I will also try buffing it out by orbital with an MF bonnet. Until then, here is my take:

AIO - nice. easy. If it lasts like I expect, great stuff - as so many of you know.

SG - a bit of work. I can apply and buff out Gold Class or Souveran or (dare I say it? Zaino :eek: ) more easily. However if the layering continues to add depth, and the longevity is good, it may well be worth the effort. The hood is certainly as shiny as I have ever seen it. It looks really great. Some swirl-hiding has happened. As expected with a polymer, the "look" is a bit harder/more plasticky than I have seen with Carnauba. I know I can "top" the SG with some Souveran, but I have mixed feelings about that. I don't know of a sure-fire way to remove carnauba without removing the Klasse, so once I've added a topper I won't feel comfortable adding an SG layer.

I am impressed with how little of both AIO and SG are needed. This is very economical stuff.

There you have it!

The story will continue to unfold.
 
Good post carguy! :xyxthumbs I think the way you used the AIO was perfect. You started out with the prep work needed and worked the AIO in well. When done like this AIO is easy to remove.



The SG has some learning curve to it. First imho you used about 3-4 times too much SG to do the hood. If you can barely see that you put anything on that's about right.



The best way to achieve this that I have found is applying the SG by hand with a MF applicator (a folded MF towel would probably work just as well). I've experimented with using a QD to dampen the applicator and I do like that approach. I just use one spray though from my Meguiar's maroon bottle QD sprayer. The QD also works well, as you found, for removing any stubburn spots.



Then I let the SG sit for a minimum of 20 minutes. Also my .02 says lay off on the topper until you put 3 or 4 layers of SG on first because that makes a nice difference in shine and feel.
 
Carguy, thanks for the very detailed review!



The milky consistency of KSG takes a bit of getting used to. Last time I did KSG, I used about 5-6 drops to do the entire hood.



I'm looking forward to how your 'story unfolds'! :)
 
I thought you were on Meguiars pay roll for a while JK. Klasse is great keeps us posted, Im debating if I should top my car off witha carnuba.
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you basically cant see it. Im very careful when i apply making sure i dont miss a spot. When removing it I just make sure i Wipe the whole car off several times finishing with a quick wipe down with Meguiars FI.
 
KSG is really tough to see on white. A Viper MF applicator helps with the application because it is large for an applicator and it allows wider more uniform swipes, that are easier to see, than a round foam app. HERE is a photo of my white truck after using Klasse for the first time. I think that is shows off the reflectivity that Klasse can deliver. The first time I used KSG I put it down way too thick and it was a bear to remove. When I'm removing KSG is when I have the most trouble seeing it on white.
 
I think it's harder to see KSG on white, but not that hard.

Strong lighting is key - and if you've prepped the paint, and it's in good condition - you should be able to see the straight lines of KSG on the white paint surface easily, albeit not as easily as on a darker colored car.

I love Klasse on my white truck - honestly, I keep repeating myself - I like to try new products, and would love to try some Blackfire - but with the great results I got with Klasse - BF would have to be BLINDING to other drivers in order to surpass my Klasse experience.

Keep in mind - we're in the shade here, and I've filtered down this image for the broadband impaired :)

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Greg-



Had a question - did you AIO an SG your rims?



Dunno if Porsche's are the same dust generators that Mercedes' and BMW's are, but if they are - you'll LOVE SG on your rims.



A first pass with some AIO (and clay, if necessary) will get your rims to smooth-as-can-be ready for SG. Two to three passes of SG - and that brake dust will fly right off with regular washing, as opposed to requiring all kinds of scrubbing and expensive wheel treatments to remove.
 
Greg,

I think with SG once you get your technique right you won't be able to stop applying more and more. It will look great on your dark cars!

Apply some AIO or SG on your lights and they will sparkle nicely.
 
Thanks, Guys -



I look forward to getting some more Sg on there and getting the technique down.



I haven't applied it to the wheels but that is a great idea. The Porsche wheels are fortunately easy to clean, and they will be easy to wax. The BMW wheels on the other hands are a giant pain in the patoot.



I only applied the Klasse to the hood of the BMW so far - I will keep the rest under my regular regime for a time to compare longevity - but i suspect I'll end up Klasse-ing the whole car. I'm way less sure about the Porsche, though. it's black. It gets swirls. I don't believe ANY wax, polymer, teflon, gooflon, wonder-shield or whatever is going to stop a scratch from happening, or keep it from getting to the paint.



So I'm going to be getting down to clean paint frequently (4-6x/year) as I polish these out. The longevity benefit of the Klasse is not so important - and I get excellent results with Gold Class/Souveran without worrying about a new layer not sticking to what's left of an old one. It lasts long enough.



I will stick with the Klasse on the BMW though and hopefully expand my knowledge about it.
 
finally JohnN some pics of the ML. I love the new ML styling, and yours looks so shiny and wet. Man I love Klasse, and Mercedes :p
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by AlBoston [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>finally JohnN some pics of the ML. I love the new ML styling, and yours looks so shiny and wet. Man I love Klasse, and Mercedes :p [/b]</blockquote> Exactlly what AlBoston said:up
 
chris, i usually don't like white cars, but your mb looks amazing! that's great.



more on topic, does anyone apply sg with a pc? i haven't heard anyone mention it.
 
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