Porsche Cayenne paint...

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chrisguga

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I'm taking delivery of a used titanium edition Cayenne turbo in about a week and was wondering if anyone can tell me a little about the paint.



I plan to order CarPro's denim or velvet pads to deal with orange peel as this will largely be a weekend/road trip/out-to-dinner vehicle so I want the paint to look pretty good.



I take it the denim pad is just a more aggressive version of the velvet? Is the paint generally hard or soft? Any problems finishing this down?



Did that aerosol clear bra product ever pan out to much? I wouldn't mind using that on the front and mirrors and then OCing the rest.



I'll do a write-up on this thing once I get it detailed to my liking.
 
The last Cayenne I detailed had your average hard german paint, nothing to worry about as long as you have a decent compound and polish. Are you planning on removing orange peel from factory paint? Seems risky, but I have no experience with those pads beyond what little I saw in that recent popular C&B thread.
 
chrisguga said:
I'm taking delivery of a used titanium edition Cayenne turbo in about a week and was wondering if anyone can tell me a little about the paint.



I plan to order CarPro's denim or velvet pads to deal with orange peel as this will largely be a weekend/road trip/out-to-dinner vehicle so I want the paint to look pretty good.



I take it the denim pad is just a more aggressive version of the velvet? Is the paint generally hard or soft? Any problems finishing this down?



Did that aerosol clear bra product ever pan out to much? I wouldn't mind using that on the front and mirrors and then OCing the rest.



I'll do a write-up on this thing once I get it detailed to my liking.
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Yes the Denim pads are more aggressive than the velvet.



What is you method of application for the pads?



Do you have a PTG just to take measurements to be on the safe side?
 
Paint on the ones I've done were pretty soft. Is the OP that bad that you need to reduce it? I've used the Car-Pro pads and have great luck with them. The only downside (kinda) is that they don't last very long so make sure you have a decent about to do the job.
 
Well, I don't have a PTG, but I'm thinking about buying one of those Chinese knock-offs on ebay.



Honestly, I don't know if the orange peel is that bad as I haven't taken delivery, but for me this vehicle is special enough to spend a weekend or two getting the paint really nice. Every factory paint job seems to have some orange peel so I figure I'll order 4-6 of these pads and experiment with them.



Any opinion on that aerosol clear bra?
 
Sounds like a plan. Nice to be able to take your time to make sure everything comes out as expected. Not too sure about the clear bra?
 
chrisguga said:
Well, I don't have a PTG, but I'm thinking about buying one of those Chinese knock-offs on ebay.



Honestly, I don't know if the orange peel is that bad as I haven't taken delivery, but for me this vehicle is special enough to spend a weekend or two getting the paint really nice. Every factory paint job seems to have some orange peel so I figure I'll order 4-6 of these pads and experiment with them.



Any opinion on that aerosol clear bra?
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I assume this will be your own car?
 
Yes, my car but not a daily driver. I'll keep my current car to drive to work, if it's raining and I just detailed the Cayenne, etc.



I've wanted one of these for a while. I wanted something that can tow a boat, bring the sport to sport utility vehicle, carry 4-5 people, something you don't see around every corner, etc.



I'll probably go with the velvet pads for now and see what kind of results I can get. I'll be sure to post a detailed write-up of my experiences with them. I have a fresh syringe of OC that I've been saving for whatever vehicle I bought so I'll use that too, especially if the paint is soft.
 
Porsche paint comes in 2 varieties. Hard and soft.



Porsche Cayman, Boxster and the 911's have fantastic paint to work with as it corrects easy.



The Cayenne and Panamera SUCK!



While cleaning up some Cayenne's some years back for a torture test that was put together by Porsche North America for the auto magazines I had the chance to talk with Porsche's paint guy and asked him why the paint is so friggin hard and he told me the reason behind it. The sporty cars are low to the ground and debris hits the car and a softer clear takes more impact. The Cayenne, in his words, is an "off road" vehicle thus the need for a harder clear finish.



Personally after working on tons of Porsche cars I believe that hard and soft clears is a misnomer....they both scratch just as easy IMHO but the harder clears just make removing the scratches more difficult.



My first step on a Cayenne is an orange pad with a finishing polish. Deliberately running polisher slow and taking my time, maybe 15 to 20 minutes per panel. In many cases this is all I need for correction unless the paint is really abused.
 
Anthony Orosco said:
Personally after working on tons of Porsche cars I believe that hard and soft clears is a misnomer....they both scratch just as easy IMHO but the harder clears just make removing the scratches more difficult.



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That perfectly describes hard vs soft. My Audi paint is hard and took double the amount of time to correct than say my Honda paint.
 
Thanks for the replies.



I prefer hard paint even if it's more difficult to correct. My Chevy paint was easier to maintain than the fiance's old Altima paint.



The Cayenne is definitely a pretty rugged vehicle. I don't intend to use it as such, but I've read about people abusing them offroad with mud tires and getting through stuff better than Range Rovers and most any other full size SUV due to the front, rear, and center electronic locking differentials and adjustable air suspension that you can raise up about 12 inches for ground clearance with a Renntech module. It's adjustable stock, but not as high or as low as with the module.



Anyway, this thing is taking forever to get. Pen Fed is frustrating to deal with and botched several things which resulted in delays, the sellers bank is waiting almost a week to clear the funds, and now shipping is going to take about a week. Ugh.
 
Well, I finally received the thing last week and haven't had time to do anything except a very quick wash just to knock the dirt off of it. I may start machine polishing today although I have a lot of yard work to catch up on and I need to give the other cars a quick wash too. Overall, I'm happy with the condition of the truck and it's a kick in the pants to drive.



Sorry for the poor quality of the pictures.







This one was taken through a window of a Wendy's when I stopped on my way back from picking the truck up to eat. lol



 
Anthony Orosco said:
My first step on a Cayenne is an orange pad with a finishing polish. Deliberately running polisher slow and taking my time, maybe 15 to 20 minutes per panel. In many cases this is all I need for correction unless the paint is really abused.
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Anthony--do you mean slow polisher speed or slow arm speed or both????
 
pwaug said:
Anthony--do you mean slow polisher speed or slow arm speed or both????
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Both....if you run your polisher too fast then you're not allowing the pad and polish to work how it was intended. Feel your paint every so often, it should be warm to the touch, not hot. If it gets hot then move to another area while it cools then return to that area again until results are satisfactory.



Happy Detailing
 
Thanks Anthony!! Will give this a try on our 2 VWs--both have hard clear and are in good shape so not allot of correction to do.
 
Nice looking CTT, congrates. FYI, you will find out real quick the back gets dirty real fast and is almost impossible to keep clean. CTT is an awesome vehicle. Drinks a little oil but an absolute blast to drive (which you can't say about many SUV's).
 
Bed993, I agree that it's an awesome vehicle. I can't help but get into boost a little every time I accelerate. It's addictive and literally rockets you ahead of traffic without even trying.



The paint is proving to be hard as a rock. I hit the hood and front fenders with some HD Polish on an green HD pad and it didn't even make any kind of noticable difference. lol



I do like my new speedy prep towel. That cut claying time in half.



:edit: I see you also drive a Cayman S. I love those cars and nearly traded in my daily driver on a silver '07 Cayman base model, but just couldn't pull the trigger due the car's lack of umph. I'm trying to talk the fiance into an '06-'07 Cayman S although she loves her new Honda CRV. Women. lol
 
The turbo's acceleration is just nuts for a SUV. As you say very addicting. It just an awesome road trip machine. But so dangerous for speed because 90mph is just effortless. I love doing quick downshifts to get on the boost and just shoot past traffic. The surprising thing is the ride quality and the handling. The CTT is my wife's daily driver and our road trip and triathlon hauling machine.



The Cayman S is my daily driver. Just an absolute blast to drive. The acceleration is acceptable. The wonderful sounds it makes causes it to seem even faster. However, the real fun is the combination of acceleration and handling. The turn in and lack of body roll just makes it so fun. Having owned a Boxster in the past I understand completely what you are saying about the lack of umph in the base Cayman. As much as I love the handling and tossability of the mid engine platform, I would not want to live with the lack of power on a daily basis. However, the S is a different animal. This is an excellent time to look for a good used 2006-2008 Gen I Cayman S. Very good deals can be had. This is actually my 2nd Cayman S. I originally had a 2007 and a few years ago decided to sell it to save some money and I daily drove a 135i for a couple of years. Nice car pretty quick but lacked the fun factor to me and honestly the handling and ride sucked. I decided this past summer I wanted a daily driver Porsche again. After looking for about 3 months I finally find my deal (I had specific options I wanted and I also wanted a deal with it came to price). The key to women and Porsche (at least my wife) is to get them to drive one. I've had a couple and she really sort of complained about me having them. When we went to look at bigger SUV's last winter she was looking at BMW X5's when she got talked into driving the CTT...she drove it like a granny for the first part of the test drive...I drove it and told her to drive again...she driving and I tell just "punch it" once...she does and she lets out this little scream saying..."now I know why you like Porsche so much"...unfortunately the salesman didn't have to do anything she was sold. However I was very happy :)



As for detailing...ours is white and doesn't show the defects as much. Porsche brakes are pain because they dust so much. The paint is hard. I like it to look nice but I am not fanatical enough to try and get it perfect since its a daily driver. Last spring, I used the last of some Zaino AIO with a older orange pad (think the pads have changed since I bought it). It got rid of the minor stuff and lessened the more significant swirls. I followed it with Z5 and Z2 (finished both). I am getting ready to try Sonax Polymer Net Shield on the Cayman S and plan on doing the turbo also. I am thinking about trying Sonax Nano Polish 3/6. I really am still reading about the newer polishes because I have been out of the detailing world for a while.
 
It's funny mentioning that your wife originally didn't "get it" regarding the Porsche. My fiance has fairly simple tastes and never owned or wanted a luxury car. She supported my decision to buy the Porsche but didn't really like them.



Now? She loves it! She says she loves how plush and comfortable the ride is, how it goes so fast when you barely push the gas, and how it makes her feel prettier driving it.



I'd love to have another Porsche for a daily, but I drive 50 miles round trip to work and she is a home health PT and drives 150 miles per day on average. I hate to put that kind of mileage on a car that might have an ims failure or other expensive repair bills.
 
I'll do a write-up on this thing once I get it detailed to my liking.
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