Polys & their twin BaseCoats/Polishes???

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dl4surf

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I would like to test out several of the top polys ( Blackfire, Klasse, UPP, Finish First, Z, etc...). But I would like to use AIO as the base coat/polish. That way I won't have to buy each each and every pre-treatment. Plus I already have AIO.



I have heard the Z enthusiasts insist on Z1 or ZSX with Z2, but as far the others I thought that AIO may be alright to use.



Has anyone experimented with AIO as a base layer for any of these polys?



Derek



P.S. I really like to step out of the box and experiment. One of my favorite posts here was with the guys trying out their own 'brew' of Blackfire/Z2 combo. Where did you guys go?
 
Good question - I use AIO and SG, but am interetsed in AIO to use universally as a base and to try new BF2 or Z2. This way AIO takes off everything and I start fresh w/ one product...Anyone have any thoughts???
 
:up Sounds like a good experiment. Keep us updated. Also, If I were you, I probably stay away from Blackfire. It is a major dust magnet. I just put it on my hood and within a few days, it was caked with dust. The rest of the car had barely any dust. Maybe their new formula is better. Lets hope so. :xyxthumbs
 
dl4surf said:
I would like to test out several of the top polys ( Blackfire, Klasse, UPP, Finish First, Z, etc...). But I would like to use AIO as the base coat/polish. That way I won't have to buy each each and every pre-treatment. Plus I already have AIO.



I have heard the Z enthusiasts insist on Z1 or ZSX with Z2, but as far the others I thought that AIO may be alright to use.



Has anyone experimented with AIO as a base layer for any of these polys?



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well as I have never used AIO as a prep for Z I still dont think that is a good idea. You need the surface to be 100% free of anything for the best results, just my $02 on that, also it is ZFX that you mix with the Z.





I think to do a fair test you should have a clean surface for all of the products, if you have AIO put on first that may skew some of the results of some of the products, as I use AIO on its own with good results also just my $02 :)
 
AIO for a base and the "revised" Platinum UPP on top of it has worked well for me since the first week of August. Two applications of each to insure complete coverage. Not gonna get into the layer or not debate. It makes for an absolutely great looking finish on a dark metallic blue Pontiac TranSport mini-van. Durablity seems to be fine, whether it is the AIO or the UPP, I have no idea. All I know for sure is that it makes for a great combination for me.



Charles
 
AIO seems to work fine as a base for UPP. I've never used it as a base for Blackfire, but my guess is that it would have similar results. You really don't need to use a base if your paint is clean. The real reason for those products is to clean the surface of oxidation and other contamination before applying a polish or sealant on top of it. AIO will do that just fine from my experience. If your paint is already clean then you can skip that step and go straight for the sealant stage. UPP or SG will look just as good on your car with or without a base layer of AIO (providing that the paint has already been cleaned).
 
If the purpose of your test is to see if it will work, then I say go ahead. But, as a guy who's been through the wringer for his test methodologies, you absolutely, cannot, conduct a fair test with the AIO as the universal base coat.



We made a similar mistake when testing, and boy did we pay for our error. You have to use the proper tools for the job if you're looking to get the 'fairest' results, which means buying and using the proper prep products for each product.



(this is why I have over 100 wax-only products and their appropriate prep products sitting in the test bins...)
 
geekysteve said:
If the purpose of your test is to see if it will work, then I say go ahead. But, as a guy who's been through the wringer for his test methodologies, you absolutely, cannot, conduct a fair test with the AIO as the universal base coat.



We made a similar mistake when testing, and boy did we pay for our error. You have to use the proper tools for the job if you're looking to get the 'fairest' results, which means buying and using the proper prep products for each product.



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THX Steve, I thought the same. If anyone knows it is you :)
 
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