Polishing Gone Bad... Help!

Don't mind my last post, but after seeing the pics I am pretty sure its a clear coat failure as well. Oxidation doesn't look like that unless its singles stage.
 
A few ~random thoughts follow:



I can't tell if it's cc failure or not. I gather there's no color transfer onto the pad.



Never, ever use Griot's MPs on a warm/hot surface.



Never switch to #3 until it's basically perfect and never apply the wax until you're finished polishing.



If it looked OK in the garage you need better lighting in there ;)



FWIW I sure wouldn't expect Griot's MP#2 to be enough for that job! I can't help but wonder if the product was over-worked :think:



If that was a Griot's orange pad that came apart something's weird as those pads usually last forever.



I'd do as Eliot Ness suggested, but I'd probably do two passes with the DC#1 and then multiple passes with the MP#2 (unless you have some MP#1 handy). If it' cc failure it needs painted anyhow, so I wouldn't worry too much about being too aggressive..as if you could *be* aggressive with MP#2 ;) The only time it ever acted remotely aggressive for me was on single stage..when used by Cyclo (whole 'nother situation compared to PC/Griot's orange pad...and I liked it by Cyclo a lot better).
 
Is the white "haze" oxidation? if you cant feel it, I wold think it would be the oxidation shgowing in the paint. My old red car as a kid had an oxidized paint that looked like that after trying to buff it out.
 
I'm curious to know what your pad looks like. Was it turning black? If so you have polished straight through the paint to the primer. I think you need to break out some 2500 grit sand paper and wetsand a small, small! section and see what it does. Then with a rotary polished it back with a fine cut or swirl remover compound.



I have ot say your pics are one of the most bizzare things I have seen.
 
Yikes.... this is not good... is there any hope, if there is a CC failure, of saving it without re-painting? Also... could there have been a cc failure before I started polishing, and I just made it more visible, or am I the culprit here....???
 
autobahnshine- If it's cc failure the only solution is a repaint, sorry to say it's just as simple as that.



Nah, I *sincerely* doubt that you killed it with MP#2. If you did, it was on its absolute last legs anyhow. More likely that you made it more noticeable, but I still wonder if it's something that severe. I wouldn't have hesitated to go at it with at least MP#1, and I'm not what you'd call reckless ;)



Do as suggested- tape off a small area and really work it. FWIW, on hard clear (like many VWs) you could spend *hours* with MP#2 and still not get things all that close to perfect. I'd probably be using a rotary and *MUCH* more aggressive stuff, and again, I'm not somebody who uses risky procedures.



For the first step on your test area, I'd try to clean it with rubbing alcohol first. MP#2 is so mild that it might have trouble cutting through a good layer of wax! That MP#2/PC/Griot's orange pad combo is simply not aggressive by most any standard.
 
Alright... thanks guys... Im going to hire a professional to take a real good look at it in person to see what my options are before I touch it again... I tried MP1 after many coats of 3, and then one coat of 2 were applied... thats what the phone rep convinced me to do... but then again, he was pretty dumb... i was telling him what polishes were aggresive, less agressive... sigh... So... whats the price range for a re-paint of a hood? Im I looking at a $800 price tag?? :nixweiss
 
autobahnshine said:
... sigh... So... whats the price range for a re-paint of a hood? Im I looking at a $800 price tag??
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Nah, should't be that high if you just get the hood shot without any blending into the fenders. Can't say how much off the top of my head but it's a simple job and it boils down to time and materials.



Sorry to hear the Griot's rep was so clueless though :(



If you get a chance, let us know what the pro says and/or what you end up having done, good luck with it.
 
wow your a pretty nice guy. You would hire a guy to look at it even thought its your buddys car/fault. :xyxthumbs
 
Well... Since Im in the process of starting my own detailing business, its best to learn, and have the service turn out right...to get a good reputation... costumers come first- even if that means I pay for a re-paint.
 
Wait, so you plan on starting a detailing business, yet you cannot do a simple buff with a D/A polisher? You might want to rethink that for your own good until you have months of practice. Even then, some aren't cut out for it.
 
Im in the practice mode right now! I've done plenty of cars that were in better condition, and the results were great... I had no trouble. But, this time, the paint condition was much different, and it took a differnet approach. This is my first car with this severity... and the help Im getting from this forum is great...
 
From looking at the picture I would say the CC failure was not your fault and should be the owners problem. If you start paying to repaint every car you have with paint problems your business will not last, although it is a nice gesture just not a good business move. However if you do feel you caused it then I say get it repainted and get some more practice under your belt before making this your living. Mike...
 
Yeah... it wouldn't be a 'business' move, just a for something a friend (im sure he would pitch in). If I ever encounter a customer with paint in this condition, Im going to have to refer them to a good paint shop... Im fine with continuing with newer Lexus's and ZO6's :) I have many more questions... Ill start a new thread
 
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