Please help me pick out products

LQ9SS

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I bought the flex and I am in need of polishes and pads. My paint is in fair condition. I will need to remove minor scratches and marring. I don't need anything real aggresive, as I am new to the DA machine use.



I have been looking at kits on autogeek, and pinnacle seems to be a decent product. What do you guys think about this kit?

XMT Light Swirl Remover Complete Kit by Pinnacle: For your dual action or rotary polisher.



Will these pads work with the flex?



Thanks
 
LQ9SS said:
Thanks for the link.



Is the 6.5" pad recommended for the flex???? Or something smaller?



I don't have a Flex so someone with the machine will probably chime iI'm sure to help you out, but from what I recall there's currently not an interchangeable backing plate so you will have to use 6.5" pads with the backing plate that comes with the machine.
 
*Cracks knuckles*, OK, Supe's "new guy polishing recommendation post", retyped for the nth time... :)



DA's, even the Flex, are very gentle machines. They don't have the correcting power of a rotary, and that's a good thing; they are much safer to use than a rotary, with a larger margin of error. IMO, you got the best DA machine out there. The Flex is known for having better correcting ability than the other machines.



Now let's talk pads. For lower powered DA's (Meguairs, Griots, PC 7424, UDM, etc), it is often recommended that you stay with 4" pads to get better correcting power. You can press harder without bogging down the motor on a 4" pad than you can a bigger one. The Flex does have more power, though. You could probably get by with bigger pads, but still, if you want maximum correcting power, stay with the 4" pads. You probably won't need anything more than the following pads: 4" LC orange, 4" LC White, and 4" LC Black. Get at least two of each.



Now let's talk about polishes. Once again, DA's don't have alot of correcting ability. Therefore, you want to get polishes that have maximum bite in their respective categories. In other words, you will want to get a medium correction polish that is the most powerful of the medium correcting poliishes. Right now, that is Menzerna Super Intensive Polish, or 1Z Intensive Paste. For medium polishes, you just can't get any with better "bite" than those two. Pick one of them, and it's going to be your mainstay for "correction"; getting out defects and swirls. Apply it with the orange LC 4" pad at maximum speed. Don't be surprised if you have to do multiple applications to get the defects/swirls out; again, you're using a DA machine, and it takes alot of work to correct paint with it. Especially if you're "blessed" with a hard clear coat on your vehicle. I wouldn't get anything stronger than the above polishes. Going up to a really high powered compound like Menzerna Power Gloss, Meguairs M105, etc., really isn't a good idea for someone just starting out. You're better off doing multiple applications of a medium polish than reaching for a big gun.



Now let's talk finishing polish. After you have corrected the paint (remvoving the defects and swirls), you'll need a finishing polish that again has the most umph in it's class. Right now, that is Menzerna PO106FF (also known as Nano Polish), 3M Ultrafina, and 1Z Hochglanz. For someone just starting out, I'd recommend the 1Z Hochglanz, but you can't go wrong with any of them. Apply it with the 4" LC white pad to remove any remaining compounding marks, then apply it with the 4" black LC pad to really put a shine on the finish.



After your final polishing step, go over the vehicle with a 50/50 mix of isopropyl alcohol/water and an MF towel to remove any left over polishing residue/dust.



Apply an LSP of your choice.
 
Go to dedicationtodetail.com and order there new classic CCX pads for the FLEX. I just got blue and green pads and they work awesome. Perfect size and feel great!
 
Thanks alot superbee. After polshing would it be alright to top it with Z5, or should I remove the polishes and than apply Z5?
 
BigAl3 said:
i don't have experience with XMT products, but that seems to be a pretty good kit. another option is to buy a few of the white & orange pads, and polish seperate if you don't need the other items in that kit...



i'd probably go with this kit instead... Optimum Detailing Kit:This kit contains the optimum products for swirl removal & paint protection!



I am leaning towards this kit. Would someone please let me know which optimum product to use first? and which pad? and so on.... Is this a good kit for a beginner?



Is the opti-seal concider an LSP?



Thanks
 
LQ9SS said:
I am leaning towards this kit. Would someone please let me know which optimum product to use first? and which pad? and so on.... Is this a good kit for a beginner?



OP and/or PS with the white pad

OC with orange



optimum makes some user friendly products and they don't dust that bad (or at all) compared to some others...
 
BigAl3 said:
OP and/or PS with the white pad

OC with orange



optimum makes some user friendly products and they don't dust that bad (or at all) compared to some others...



Isn't the white pad less aggresive than the orange? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Or do you go less aggressive to more aggressive?



Also, do I even need the black pad.



Hate to sound like a *******, but there are so many variables.
 
LQ9SS said:
Isn't the white pad less aggresive than the orange? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Or do you go less aggressive to more aggressive?



you want to start with the least aggressive approach (why use something more aggressive if it's not needed?). do a test spot and work your way up from there...
 
BigAl3 said:
you want to start with the least aggressive approach (why use something more aggressive if it's not needed?). do a test spot and work your way up from there...



I see. I thought i had to use both products. My paint is in good condition. So I should be fine with the white pad.
 
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