Please Help. I'm frustrated with my paint

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Cuspid

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When light shines on my paint just right, I see these little dots. I have tried polishing them out with Griots machine polishes, which took out every swirl mark, but the dots are still there. My car has a clear coat.

What are those dots/Speckels?

Is there anyway that the dots are coming from under the clear coat?

The car is a 2002 Ferrari with 5000 miles on it. It is the factory paint job and has not been re-painted. What can I do to solve this?

I took pictures to post, but "The upload failed"

Thank you in advance.
 
:cool: Its very hard to say without pics.(we just had a thread "having problems posting pics".) Did you clay vehicle? are you using a CLEANER wax? Compound? What color is vehicle? What machine are you using? Are you sure its not just paint overspray"Speckels"(have you had your house/biz painted recently?) :cool::dcrules Sorry 4 all tha????? just tryin to help. If your close to tha ocean fly tha Wife and I out and I will handle that 4 u. NO CHARGE...
 
:cool: Please excuse my rudeness,I forgot to :welcome: you to "THA FAMILY" hope you stick around.:cool::dance1:headspin:headspin:headspin:dance1:dcrules
 
:welcome: ....can you feel these dots or speckles?


what color is the car? Just because you have had it since new does not mean it couldn't have been repainted at the factory or dealer before you bought it. You have to host a picture somewhere else and then post it... the attachments don't seem to work for everyone :notme:
 
Cuspid said:
When light shines on my paint just right, I see these little dots. I have tried polishing them out with Griots machine polishes, which took out every swirl mark, but the dots are still there. My car has a clear coat.

What are those dots/Speckels?

Is there anyway that the dots are coming from under the clear coat?

The car is a 2002 Ferrari with 5000 miles on it. It is the factory paint job and has not been re-painted. What can I do to solve this?

I took pictures to post, but "The upload failed"

Thank you in advance.
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It is very possible these dots are either pitting which can sometimes be fixed with wet sanding or they are coming up from under the clear. Either way I would not recommend trying to fix this yourself.

If it's pitting then someone who is experienced with wet-sanding needs to tackle the job (if it's not pitted too deep). If it's coming from under neath the clear then the only solution is repainting.

Wish I had better news for you.

Welcome to DC. :cheers:
 
Troy@DetailCity said:
It is very possible these dots are either pitting which can sometimes be fixed with wet sanding or they are coming up from under the clear. Either way I would not recommend trying to fix this yourself.

If it's pitting then someone who is experienced with wet-sanding needs to tackle the job (if it's not pitted too deep). If it's coming from under neath the clear then the only solution is repainting.

Wish I had better news for you.

Welcome to DC. :cheers:
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That's what I was thinking too Troy. What area of the vehicle are you seeing them on? Is there a color to them? Do you by any chance have a one of those little hand held magnifing glasses? If not you should be able to pick one up at Radio Shack...similar to this.

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Rasky
 
Welcome to the site from Sonoma County CA


Good info so far, but can you feel the dots on the surface of the paint??

You might try using a plastic sandwich bag over your had...palm side down run that over the area where the dots are...can you feel them.
 
"Doctor, Doctor, I am desprate!! I have this brain tumor and want you to remove it without a catscan...."

Without being able to see the defect in your paint, any or all of our suggestions would be in vain -- we might as well be doing exploratory surgery on your brain...

Now, with that all said, if you've been using Groits, you might wanna just step up and purchase some Zymol Royale. I hear this is by far the best product available at ailing fatwallet syndromes.
 
dr_detail said:
"Doctor, Doctor, I am desprate!! I have this brain tumor and want you to remove it without a catscan...."

Without being able to see the defect in your paint, any or all of our suggestions would be in vain -- we might as well be doing exploratory surgery on your brain...

Now, with that all said, if you've been using Groits, you might wanna just step up and purchase some Zymol Royale. I hear this is by far the best product available at ailing fatwallet syndromes.
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:cool: I disagree. You can purchase every wax,polish& compound on tha market and it will not correctly remove overspray/pitting. Wipping out tha VISA is not tha answer to all of lifes unpleasantries.I also don't know how much help a PIC would be. Like Beemer was saying about baggie & thumbnail is a good start(see if you can carefully pick speckels) except I would add maybe some quick shine spray wax. Also keep bucket of suds/mit & hose handy. Keep tha car wet.. I find it hard to believe this car is pitted(5000miles) unless you drove behind gravel truck on interstate. Is this a 1 owner? Iwould bet a double cheeseburger this is just a case of someone using a spray gun to paint exterior of house/biz. Overspray can travel a long way on a windy day(NEIGHBOR) Another thing, are this Speckels on tha car in a uniformal pattern? Good Luck...:cool::headspin:headspin:headspin:dcrules
 
Can NOT feel the dots!

I am still not able to upload photos, but the moderator tells me that the upload problem will be fixed soon. So please check back often until I get the pictures posted.

You are all so nice. Thank you for the polite welcomes as well as your input.
 
They could just be smaller rock chips(not down to color of primer), but till we see some pics no one here is going to be much help just a lot of speculation.
 
Cuspid said:
Can NOT feel the dots!

I am still not able to upload photos, but the moderator tells me that the upload problem will be fixed soon. So please check back often until I get the pictures posted.

You are all so nice. Thank you for the polite welcomes as well as your input.
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Did you just buy this car and then notice it or something that has come on over time?


If you want to post pics...create an account at photobucket.com and then use the hyper link to paste into the thread...some of can upload from the pics manager and some can't...I'm in the later of the two.
 
Cuspid said:
Can NOT feel the dots!

I am still not able to upload photos, but the moderator tells me that the upload problem will be fixed soon. So please check back often until I get the pictures posted.

You are all so nice. Thank you for the polite welcomes as well as your input.
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:cool: CRAP...Looks like I owe you a Cheeseburger.:cool::dcrules
 
OK. Picture are uploaded on Photobucket (Thank for that tip). Here is the link.

Pictures by Cuspidman - Photobucket


To answer some of the questions:

1. They are not stone chips.

2. I didn't notice this on the paint until I had track lighting spot lights installed on my garage to help me with detailing the car. When the spot is shining on the car, you can see it in the reflection of the spot lights. Now that I know they are there, I see it in the sunlight on bright days.

Thank you again.
 
I am willing to bet someone at one time used an acidic wheel cleaner on or around your car. When I worked at one of the local detail shops that is all they used, they also sold used cars that they would clean and sell. On almost all of the cars was pitting just like this, could not feel them, or remove them( did not try to wetsand).
 
:cool:Maybe it is a repaint. Can't say 4 sure but if you can't feel them, and they are smooth with surfface my next guess would be a clear coat/paint deffect.Man... I can understand your frustration:wall:wall:wall:cool: Good Luck...anybody else? :dcrules
 
Is this in one area of the car or all over?


and is it over the engine area??

I uploaded one of the pics...up close that looks like its something in the clear coat..a containment of some sort...I saw something very similar to this on a new Nissan I was working on red in color.

It doesn't appear to be in the paint IMO....you might be able to wet sand but it really depends on how deep they are into the clear


Any chance this car was repainted??

I've not worked on a lot of Ferraris but I do know they have excellent workmanship in the paint area...
 
I can see it on the front, rear and tops of doors...any horizontal surface. Its not evident unless there is a bright glare on the paint, so it doesn't show up on the vertical parts of the car. But I am a characteristic of my cars paint.
 
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