PC+M105+Cutting pad 2.0 info

Jason M

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I originally posted this over on MOL but thought some here might also like it. Their is a link at the bottom to my follow up post for those interested.







Well I finally got around to compounding my GF's new car today. Compound a new car you ask!?! Well yes! It's a 2008 Subaru Impreza. We bought it 4 months ago with 11k miles....as the sun was going down...stupid! We owned the car for less than 12 hours when I had it in the garage to buff it out. I noticed lots of buffer induced swirls and halos. It also had the deepest wash brush marks I have ever seen. It also was COVERED in white overspray. It's a charcoal metallic so the tiny over spray spots where not easily noticed even in direct sunlight. I was time limited and knew that I had hours of work ahead of me to remove the over spray. So instead I just gave it a quick clay with blue mild to make the surface smooth and followed that with 83/rotary/7006 and 80/DA/8006. Topped it with some 21 and called it a day.



Fast forward to last week and I finally have time to remove the over spray. It took about 6 hours with red aggressive to remove all of it. Looking over the results of my last buff session on it I knew I was going to need something a lot stronger than 83 to get the job done. I did test spots with SOLO on various pads first and then moved on to 105. 105 at 1000rpms/7006pad did the trick in one pass. That followed with 80/8006/DA left a finish free of any swirls, halo's, or the earlier mentioned wash scratches.



Just for fun I did some test spots with 105 and a few different pads on my DA. Here is what I found:



DA/8006 pad/105/speed 5

This did a fair amount of defect removal and left a nice, yet slightly hazy finish that cleaned up with 80/8006/DA. Work time was similar to what I see with 83. This would be a great first step for somebody not quite comfortable with a rotary yet but still needs more cut than 83/8006/DA. I only tried it on this paint though, so YMMV.



DA/Cutting pad 2.0/105/Speed 5

This combo proved too aggressive for the DA. With moderate pressure the machine would bog so I had to use light pressure. The finish left was more hazy than with the polishing pad and less correction was done. I assume this is due to the light pressure dragging the abrasives over the paint rather than being worked into the paint and having a chance to cut Again, this was on one particular paint. It may work better on others and I wouldn't be scared to try it again. #80/8006/DA was NOT able to remove the haze in one pass. So I tried 83 on a 2.0 cutting pad at speed 5 and that did the trick. The wash scratches where however deeper than on the section that just had 105/8006/DA. So it wouldn't be worth the extra step IMO. Maybe a G110 with it's more powerful motor might do a better job with this combo? Maybe I should pony up and buy one to see!



DA/Cutting pad 2.0/83/DA

Not much to say here. The cutting pad worked great and left no haze. No where near the correction of 105 on an 8006 pad though. I would say it had more cut than the 8006 pad. I didn't do a side by side so can't say for sure but that would make sense. I'm sure this combo has it's place somewhere on some paint in some detail though! I won't hesitate to try it again in the future.



I know some pics would be nice but I didn't take any sorry!

I will post up some pics of the full detail though in the coming days.



Here is a link to the follow up with some pics:



PC + #9 + Finishing pad 2.0 - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online
 
Is that the only time you bogged with the 2.0 pads? I'm a noob looking into getting a DA (prob. the G110) and I like the self-centering and machine washable idea, but I'm concerned that 7" is a lot of pad for a DA. My car is fairly new, so for the moment I'm only looking at light scratches and swirls.
 
You can bog the DA with just about any pad if you push down hard enough. The G110 is a little stronger though. I actually couldn't tell the difference in size once I started working with the larger pads. Your best option is to get some and try them out. If you don't like them you can always send then right back to Meg's and get your money back.
 
Who's selling the 2.0 pads on-line (apart from ADS)? I can't even get them on the Meg's website. When I click on the link to their storefront it just takes me to the front page, and they're not shown under pads and don't come up with a search.:confused:
 
Nothing wrong with ADS, but a) I haven't dealt with them before, b) I like to see a couple of different prices if possible c) I'd rather deal with someone I know, like Autogeek or Detailersdomain or buy through Amazon merchants for security. Also, ADS is out of stock on the pads at the moment.
 
ADS is usually the cheapest ever for megs products...I order all my megs from them!!!



and what is with people using speed 5 on the PC...it does nothing in a long time...bump it up to speed 6 and watch defects be removed with ease with the combo above (105/light cut pad/speed 6)
 
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