Optimum Compound?

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How much more bite does Optimum Compound have than Optimum Polish. I used Optimum Polish with a Megs Polishing pad today. It didnt quite get all the fine scratches out, I was thinking about using/trying Optimum Compound. Any suggestions.
 
Have you used a more agressive pad with the polish?

The Orange pads can really do wonders with the polish and a PC or the Cyclo polisher.
 
i haven't experienced any diff in cut between the Polish and the Compound, using my rotary with yellow and orange pads.. I have to say its one of my biggest disappointments. So I went up to the Hyper compund, and that too, I found to worked so, so , to the point, that I shelved my entire Opt line and gone back to Meg. #83 and Mezerana power gloss..



but excuse my rant, and to hopefully help you, i'd say try to work it in for a longer time at a slower speed.
 
tumbler said:
i haven't experienced any diff in cut between the Polish and the Compound, using my rotary with yellow and orange pads.. I have to say its one of my biggest disappointments. So I went up to the Hyper compund, and that too, I found to worked so, so , to the point, that I shelved my entire Opt line and gone back to Meg. #83 and Mezerana power gloss..



but excuse my rant, and to hopefully help you, i'd say try to work it in for a longer time at a slower speed.
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wanna trade or sell your optimum line, i have 83, 82?
 
i think they say optimum get more aggresive with the pads the more aggressive the pad the more agressive the polish.
 
Datsun, what you say is true to an extent with any polish.



I too have a gallon of #83 I want to trade away. Anyone interested?



Regarding Optimum - I've probably used a couple gallons of the stuff by now. Great product that can be worked a long time...but the trade off is a tendancy to sling via rotary unless you use a dense pad. Optimum Plolish is a strong polish. I respectfully disagree with some of the initial observations that the compound is no stronger than the polish - when using the Compound via a rotary on black, I can definitely see "deeper" halograms and via a PC I see substantially greater haziness.Tumbler...buy a new bottle of the regular compound - I think they secretly increased the number of abrasives in it in recent months. Now on to Hyper Compound - Amazing stuff for a rotary! Doesn't quite have the cut of PowerGloss (my other favorite) but the lack of dust is well worth it - sometimes I prefer to work HyperCompound a little longer to achieve the same cut rather than make a HUGE mess with PG. But if you don't mind a ton of dust - nothing can match the effectiveness of PG followed by IP followed by FP II. I mean nothing!



One other thing about Optimum Polish - for me it is not a LSP ready on black. It usually looks really good, but not as good as can be. Via rotary I can usually see light halograms and via PC I can see the finish is not as clear as it can be as if were finished with something like FP II or PO85RD. I do about 2 $400 details a week on black vehicles, so I have a ton of polishing experience with Menzerna and Optimum...my two favs.
 
When using the OP via rotary the results were quite dissapointing. Didn't have very much bite. This was with a green edge pad.
 
RAG is pretty much right on in his descriptions.



PG is much faster cutting wise than Hyper BUT the trade off is dust. Hyper can give very nice results, and finish out nicer but it doesn't cut as quick as PG.



Same with IP and OCP. One cuts quicker but also dusts more.



I love FPII on dark colors and will say that it does finish out a shade finer than OCP on those colors.....at least for now



I get really nice results with OCP and the green polishing pads.....this is my fav combo.



Anthony
 
SVECobraR said:
wanna trade or sell your optimum line, i have 83, 82?
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i'd rather throw it out.. as my time is more important



its so not worth my time to package, go the post office,



if only you were local ..
 
Anthony...I have about 10 of the green AB/Propel pads and find that I'm using them less and less due to the sling - I can't run much over 1,000 rpms with the green and OP without getting sling. I like to run faster than that - call me impatient :D Do have similar results. I've had great result with IP and the green - I've actually finished with this combo on some lighter colored cars.



And I have to take something back - right now as we speek I'm detailing a black Lexus, and after finishing with OP and a white Propel/AB pad, pulling the car in the sun revealed no halograms. LSP ready for sure in this case, but it really depends on the paint at hand.



1slow50 - OP is quite strong for a polish. If you didn't get the results you were hoping for, then you'll have to go to something stronger. Try IP if you have not tried before - awesome via rotary or PC.
 
tumbler said:
i'd rather throw it out.. as my time is more important



its so not worth my time to package, go the post office,



if only you were local ..
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i'll pay you for it, whatever the cost. Don't throw it out.
 
RAG said:
Anthony...I have about 10 of the green AB/Propel pads and find that I'm using them less and less due to the sling - I can't run much over 1,000 rpms with the green and OP without getting sling. I like to run faster than that - call me impatient :D Do have similar results. I've had great result with IP and the green - I've actually finished with this combo on some lighter colored cars.
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Either you are using way too much op, or you need to "learn" to pick up the polish. I run both op & oc at 1500rpm
 
Hmmm...I never really have a problem with sling and the green pad...or any pad really unless my pad is saturated with product or I apply too much.



I usually apply a small amount to the paint, not in a line or a cross but just a drop of it. I then place my pad on that drop and begin polishing.



Anthony
 
The compound is a bit more aggressive than the polish but still finishes down pretty well via PC. Hyper is definitely more aggressive than the compound and on hard GM paint, finished down pretty well with an LC yellow cutting pad.



I also have a bottle with a 50/50 mix of the polish and compound which does a really good job on harder paints but still finishes off as well as the polish. It does lightly haze softer paints but following with OP or 106FF takes care of it easily.



What I really like about the Optimum polishes is the lack of dust and that they are sun friendly (up to a point, obviously). I do have to work them a bit longer than DACP or 106FF to get the same results but time saved not having to clean up the dust makes it pretty equal in time spent overall.
 
Im on my 4th bottle of Hyper Compound and my 8th or 9th bottle of Optimum Polish and have no problems with sling. One pad that dose give off a little would be the 3M waffle pad.
 
Ron...that's about where I'm at - I ordered a case from Kevin at Kleen Car and I've now gone through it.



I don't know on those green pads - they just seem so porous...I guess I'll have to back the speed down cause I usually like to run around 1500-1800. I usually don't get splatter till about half way through the car but I wouldn't call the pad "saturated" at this point...I can baiscally do an entire car with other pads. Next time I go for the geen pad I'll try to cut down on product and see if that helps.



Thanks.
 
The green pads are good. I think durabilty is lacking. I use the Lake Country curved edge VC pads for most rotary work. The white pad that Kevin has is my finishing pad for darker colors.
 
Ron. I agree - I feel the AB/Propel pads are the best all-around pads for a rotary. And I too use the LC VC white pads for most of my heavy rotary work - these white pads are the most sling-resistant pads I have found (sounds funny, but I can run at up too 2,500 rps with these pads and get ZERO sling, not that I run at these speeds very often). I even use the white pads for compounding - with PG or OHC they finish down incredibely well, yet provide plenty of cut/aggressiveness.



Oh yeah...I the white AB is my pad of choice for finishing on dark-colored cars. I've performed a lot of hard work and experimenting to come up with the best product/pad combination...and funny enough it sounds like we have come to nearly identical conclusions.



Thanks.
 
from my experience OHC and a Edge yellow med cut pad leaves hologramming on dark colors- need to follow up with a less aggressive pad and polish (rotary)
 
Wannafbody - for sure! I agree...the Hyper Compound is aggressive and will leave very deep swirls for sure. On dark colored cars, such an aggressive compound usually needs to be followed with two subsequent steps, in my experience.
 
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