ONR wash media

ChevyLovers

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i have this buffer, my parents got from sears a little while ago, since it was on sale.



my question is if i should use it or not to apply SMR and the likes??

doesn't seem like anyone uses anything but the porter cables on here.
 
Is it random orbit? How about variable speed?

If it's not random orbit, it requires A LOT of experience to use safely. Variable speed is not required, but sure helps. Seems like there was a recent thread about "non-PC" buffers...

I'll see if I can find it and post the link.:up

<strong class='bbc'>ADDED:[/b] I found the other thread, but not much help. :down
 
You can try it if you want to. I am pretty familar with the Craftsman buffers, those buffers don't have enough power or torque for most swirl/scratch removal. They are pretty good for removing wax and things like that though.
 
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Any Random Orbital is better than no Random Orbital.



If this all you have then use it. After a while you will leanr its limitations and it should really hurt if used properly.
 
Try body shop supply stores.



Or pep boys and auto zone have them. Make sure you inspect them closely and ensure you do not get low quality ones.
 
yeah, i think it's random orbit, it says so on the box.



it's a 10 inch one, and it says 2400 random orbits per minute (no-load speed) with a counterweight system.



so if i only use it to apply stuff like my AIO and SG, it is ok?? by the way what kind of speed do the porters put out?
 
The Porter Cable is a variable speed machine. The speeds range from 2500-6000 OPM.



If you can find foam bonnets for the Craftsman, it will be fine for apply in Klasse AIO. I suppose you could use it for SG, but I prefer to do that by hand. :up
 
I've been using a 10" Sears Craftsman orbital buffer for almost 20 years. While it's not ideal for badly oxidised cars or damaged paint, it'll work just fine on most other cars.



There aren't many foam pads on the market for these kind of buffers. The backing plate has a foam pad attached to it and you use terry cloth bonnets stretched over the backing pad. A small inventory of terry cloth bonnets will be needed if you want to efficiently use the buffer. There are some wool bonnets out there but they're not necessary unless you want to experiment with the cutting action of a wool pad and some aggressive polishes like Meguiar's Fine Cut Cleaner. That combo actually works well with that Sears buffer.



The PC is certainly a step up from the Sears buffer. But if you're not ready for the PC or don't feel the need to buy one, the Sears will work just fine for you.



It's a great tool. Enjoy.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by bretfraz [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>I've been using a 10" Sears Craftsman orbital buffer for almost 20 years. While it's not ideal for badly oxidised cars or damaged paint, it'll work just fine on most other cars.

There aren't many foam pads on the market for these kind of buffers. The backing plate has a foam pad attached to it and you use terry cloth bonnets stretched over the backing pad. A small inventory of terry cloth bonnets will be needed if you want to efficiently use the buffer. There are some wool bonnets out there but they're not necessary unless you want to experiment with the cutting action of a wool pad and some aggressive polishes like Meguiar's Fine Cut Cleaner. That combo actually works well with that Sears buffer.

The PC is certainly a step up from the Sears buffer. But if you're not ready for the PC or don't feel the need to buy one, the Sears will work just fine for you.

It's a great tool. Enjoy. [/b]</blockquote>
so i'll be able to do scratch remover stuff with a wool pad?? i'm thinking of getting a PC, even though i doubt i'll be using it as much as some of you. :D
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by VMaxima [/i]
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so i'll be able to do scratch remover stuff with a wool pad?? i'm thinking of getting a PC, even though i doubt i'll be using it as much as some of you. :D [/b]</blockquote>
Sure, you can use the same products on a 10" orbital as you'd use on a PC or rotary. The orbital may not be as effective as the others in removing oxidation and it will struggle to remove anything more than swirl marks, but it will work for most light duty uses.

The best thing the big orbitals do is apply waxes, sealants, and light polishes like glaze. Anything more serious and you'll need a more serious tool. But since you have the big orbital already might as well spend $20-30 on a few bonnets and experiment a little. If you just can't get the results you want, then spend the bucks on a PC.

Truth be told, I love my PC and thinks its worth every penny. But I have a good amount of buffer/polisher experience so I'm comparing my PC experiences with several orbitals and rotaries I've owned. But for someone with no buffer experience the orbitals are great and can provide good results.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by VMaxima [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>will it have the possibility of making the car look worse??? [/b]</blockquote>
Well, I don't think so unless something goes terribly wrong. Like you use Draino instead of Meguiar's. Or the bonnet picks up a pebble or two and the buffer creates horrific scratches.

Frankly, a buffer can do the same "damage" as you can do by hand. Just does it quicker. As long as you take reasonable care (I'm sure you will) you'll be fine.

Now get out there and start buffing!! :D
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by bretfraz [/i]
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Well, I don't think so unless something goes terribly wrong. Like you use Draino instead of Meguiar's. Or the bonnet picks up a pebble or two and the buffer creates horrific scratches.

Frankly, a buffer can do the same "damage" as you can do by hand. Just does it quicker. As long as you take reasonable care (I'm sure you will) you'll be fine.

Now get out there and start buffing!! :D [/b]</blockquote>
lol. i'll keep a look out for pebbles. and i don't have draino so i'll be fine. :)
 
There are many threads on how to wash with ONR, but very few elaborate on what specific media they use to wash with (some say grout sponge, some say MF towel, etc..). If you use a MF towel and really prefer it for ONR washes, please tell us which one(s) and why.

Currently I am using the orange Zoom towels from Target until I figure out what to get next for this step. I have also used a rasta style wash mit with good results, but it does get filthy quickly.

Thanks to Angelo on the Big Blue II towels - they work for drying, but the big and small are not enough (my method needs improvement) to finish the large SUV I own.

Tomorrow will be a wash day after the snow we got Thursday night/Friday as it turned a white vehicle a light red-clay color :scared:
 
I had been using the dreadlock mitts and now been using a mf mitt (got couple from PAC). You can flip them since I usually wipe, flip, wipe same area then rinse.

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They seem to rinse out somewhat in a rinse bucket so they stay cleaner. I usually use 2 per car plus a sponge along the rockers.
 
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