ONR & Other NO Rinse Productions?

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TAllyn

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I've used a waterless product and it was okay and I'd even recommend the one I used to somone who is not looking for a show car detail.



However now I'm thinking about trying ONR or Purhaps the DP no-rinse product or other similar no rince to wash my cars.



I have this nagging question in the back of my mind though that the truth is I think I think likely shows my ingnorance. A Product like ONR that is not just a wash, has polymers which creat a shine and some protection will those polymers interfer with the the look I've achieved with sealants or waxes I've applied?



For instance I plan on using Poorboys SS1 to get rid of spider webs and swirls, then using Poorboys EX-P to seal, then Natty's Blue as the LSP. After all that work the next week when I was my vehicles I don't want to lose what I've achieved with the EX-P and Natty's blue.



I hope this somewhat makes sense! Don't laught too hard!:LOLOL
 
TAllyn said:
A Product like ONR that is not just a wash, has polymers which creat a shine and some protection will those polymers interfer with the the look I've achieved with sealants or waxes I've applied?



After all that work the next week when I was my vehicles I don't want to lose what I've achieved with the EX-P and Natty's blue.



I hope this somewhat makes sense! Don't laught too hard!:LOLOL
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Its a concern many have had but I can tell you ONR will not damage or interfere with your LSP in any way.
 
We use ONR everyday to wash/detail between 20-50 cars. It has almost completely replaced all other forms of washing for us. We have noticed no negative effects on waxes and sealants. We've found it to be as safe as any other form of washing. The key is in the towels. Make sure you are using clean well cared for microfibers and start washing!
 
ONR is better. Earlier I thought that no rinse product were better, But I used Starsan no rinse product, Yes It is also a sanitizer, But not a sterilzer.
 
dervdave said:
Its a concern many have had but I can tell you ONR will not damage or interfere with your LSP in any way.
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Well, it messes up Collinite for me, both 845 and 476S. Does it for my pal with the MKII Jag too.
 
Accumulator, how does it mess it up for you? Does it reduce durability? I haven't seen any issues yet....
 
Dan said:
Accumulator, how does it mess it up for you? Does it reduce durability? I haven't seen any issues yet....
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Kills beading and slickness. While I understand the "that doesn't prove it's messed up" argument, it does add up to "messed up" for me, to the point that the surface simply acts "unwaxed" and I need to redo it to restore the characteristics I value.
 
As I've said before, Accumulator and I have similar experiences with ONR and 845 not playing well together. Someone else commented they had the same issues with ONR but better experiences with DP Rinseless, although who it was escapes me.
 
Accumulator said:
Well, it messes up Collinite for me, both 845 and 476S. Does it for my pal with the MKII Jag too.
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Sure ONR lays down its own very temporary sacrificial protection but definately doesn`t alter or interfere with the existing lsp.
 
mikenap said:
As I've said before, Accumulator and I have similar experiences with ONR and 845 not playing well together. Someone else commented they had the same issues with ONR but better experiences with DP Rinseless, although who it was escapes me.
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That'd be me :)
 
dervdave said:
Sure ONR lays down its own very temporary sacrificial protection but definately doesn`t alter or interfere with the existing lsp.
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Eh, not so definite in my case; it does mess it up for me.



Heh heh, I mean, come on...I can tell the diff between something being on top of an LSP as opposed to the LSP having been significantly compromised ;)



And yeah, I've read all the posts about this here and at the Optimum forums, and there's just no way I'll let anybody's opinion override my obvious first-hand experience :grinno: Dr. G. (whom I greatly respect, this is in no way a swipe at him), or anybody else who's ever lived, can say whatever they want, but the LSP is messed up and the only way to bring it back to "pre ONR-effect" condition is to reapply it. Simple as that.
 
Accumulator said:
And yeah, I've read all the posts about this here and at the Optimum forums, and there's just no way I'll let anybody's opinion override my obvious first-hand experience .
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Well you know what you know mate just the same as me and I`ve never had any issues other than a temporary change of beading behaviour and to be honest I wouldn`t have thought ONR @ the recommended dilution ratio would`ve been strong enough to do anything to actually alter any lsp.
 
I love ONR and is my goto wash in my business.



BUT on special high end LSP on black, I find I lose some depth and clarity. I seems to add a slight sealant look to it rather than the shimmering depth you get with a carnauba/montan wax.



On lighter colours I have no issues.
 
if you dont want a change in look, go with meguiars rinseless wash. in my opinion it does not change the look and it cleans very well...its worth a shot to order a sample size of it.
 
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