One Step Polishing

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smither

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I was looking at my car and was thinking about one step polishing the paint because to save time and because I don't think the paint needs a compound and then polishing stage. If I do I use would a LC Orange pad with Meguiar's Clear Coat safe polishing compound. I might post photo's later to see if a one step polish would be sufficient or it would need a 2 stage process. But does anyone have any better combinations or advice for my combination or about one step polishing?
 
I don't know much about that polish but I don't think it's going to be too user friendly with a buffer and a LC pad.


 


What polishes do you have? 


 


I'd suggest Megs 205 with the orange pad. Easy to use and will do some modest correction with an orange pad. (you'll need more than one pad)


 


If that does the trick you won't need a two step process!! You simply need to do a test spot and see if you're happy with the results.
 
fangster- IMO the orange LC pad is a bit harsh for one-stepping, better to use their Tangerine Hydrocut pad if you want to go with the LC lineup.


 


I'm just not a fan of Meguiar's milder polishes these days, I'd go with HD Polish instead.  The Meguiar's oils (and this goes for Menzerna too) are simply deal-breakers for me and considering the HD and Optimum offerings I'd sure go with either of those over Meguiar's.


 


And as noted, you'll need more than one pad no matter what you go with.
 
Accumulator said:
fangster- IMO the orange LC pad is a bit harsh for one-stepping, better to use their Tangerine Hydrocut pad if you want to go with the LC lineup.



I'm just not a fan of Meguiar's milder polishes these days, I'd go with HD Polish instead. The Meguiar's oils (and this goes for Menzerna too) are simply deal-breakers for me and considering the HD and Optimum offerings I'd sure go with either of those over Meguiar's.



And as noted, you'll need more than one pad no matter what you go with.
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Agree with this. My last couple of details have been with HD Polish and then a sealant and those customers have been thrilled
 
Im sorry guys but I mistakingly said LC but they are actually Uber Orange pads. Dschribs I have a Giots garage 6 inch and Flex 3401 Vrg. What do you mean the oils? I know that the Menzerna has supposedly swirl hiding abilities but is that what the oils do in the both at the Meguiars and Menzerna polishing compounds? Also if the Uber orange pads are still to harsh how about the Uber green polishing pads?
 
Sorry about the bad pictures but I currently don't have a proper swirl finding light but these are some picture of my car after the Land Rover dealership had washed it. I had forgotten to tell them not to after I was getting my car serviced. Its a 2011 Range Rover Autobiography so idk if anyone has worked on it but how is the paint strength? Because I know that BMW paints are pretty hard so thats what I mean. I am the first and current owner so I know the history and how it was taken care off. 


 


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When you say one step polish are you meaning like a one step polish/wax // cleaner wax?  If so I think that's be fine for what you have there.  I do more one steps than anything anymore.
 
HD Speed = Ultimate 1 Stepper. 


 


We use Speed with B&S Green foam on almost every dealer car we touch. It can take out a decent amount of scratches/marring, leave a very glossy finish as well as some temporary protection. 
 
BobD said:
When you say one step polish are you meaning like a one step polish/wax // cleaner wax?  If so I think that's be fine for what you have there.  I do more one steps than anything anymore.
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I use like a polishing compound specifically currently the Meguiars Clear Coat safe Polishing compound, because Im currently out of AMMO jewelers polish. But if you can judging by the picture with the combination of the previously stated compound and an Uber orange or Uber green polishing pad would I be able to remove a good amount of swirls. I usually get a professional to do it but I occasionally like to do some detailing so that why I'm wondering. 
 
David Fermani said:
HD Speed = Ultimate 1 Stepper.



We use Speed with B&S Green foam on almost every dealer car we touch. It can take out a decent amount of scratches/marring, leave a very glossy finish as well as some temporary protection.
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I'll have to see this stuff next Friday!
 
I just did an older Suburban a couple weeks ago with HD Speed and it turned out great for an AIO.  The customer was thrilled when he picked it up.
 
The Makita BO6040 has two modes, one, forced rotation with an elliptical movement and the other, a random orbit.  If you find a cutter aggressive enough to really cut out scratches and remove oxidation (in the forced rotation mode) but will break down at the right rate -  slowly enough so that as it breaks down and becomes fine enough to take the initial cutting mar away and gets fine enough in the end to let you use the residue from the cut (and the random orbital mode)  to finish off the rest of the marring you'll have a method that will work for most jobs.   I still believe in using a rotary for cutting really bad scratch, colorsand scratch and badly abused paint then finishing with the Makita dual action, but most people would be happy with the result using just the Makita.    


 


My posts from now on will focus mostly on methods rather than products.


 


Robert 
 
Fangster- Sorry, I'm not familiar with those pads.  The oils in both Menzerna and Meguiar's are fine for what they are/are designed to do, but you need to get them off/out of the paint to judge its true "after" condition and to me that's a huge PIA, especially on "sticky" paints (and FWIW one case that drove me nuts was a GM in a color similar to what you posted).


 


House of Wax- so the HD Speed was potent enough to cut the GM clear?


 


WhyteWizard- Some people really like that Makita BO6040 that you have!  Fangster could use a similar approach by doing the major correction with his Flex 3401 and then finishing with his GG, an approach that works well for me.
 
Accumulator said:
fangster- IMO the orange LC pad is a bit harsh for one-stepping, better to use their Tangerine Hydrocut pad if you want to go with the LC lineup.


 


I'm just not a fan of Meguiar's milder polishes these days, I'd go with HD Polish instead.  The Meguiar's oils (and this goes for Menzerna too) are simply deal-breakers for me and considering the HD and Optimum offerings I'd sure go with either of those over Meguiar's.


 


And as noted, you'll need more than one pad no matter what you go with.
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What do you mean the orange pad is to harsh. Will it mar the paint or leave some slight swirl marks or just take off more clear coat that is needed?
 
fangster- Potentially, all of those concerns!  And if none of those, you might still not get as high a final gloss as desired.  I know that *I* could never finish to my satisfaction with LC orange, and I generally work with pretty hard clear too.
 
Accumulator said:
House of Wax- so the HD Speed was potent enough to cut the GM clear?


 
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By no means did it do any significant correction, but it did do a good job of clearing up light swirls and oxidation and brought out a lot more gloss than when I got it.  Personally I'm not crazy about AIO's (IMO they don't do enough correction and they don't add significant protection so I kinda view them as a band aid), but they somewhat serve their purpose for people that don't want to spend a lot of money (or don't need much in the way of correction I suppose).  The guy used his Suburban as a family hauler/work truck, so I kind of don't blame him for not wanting to spend a ton of money on it, so it served it's purpose in this case
 
House of Wax- Ah, OK, thanks for clarifying. I guess I generally use AIOs as a substiture for Paint Cleaners and/or sometimes in place of a finishing polish.
 
LC orange pads were the only really good pads that LC makes, we talking about the thin flat ones right? And I never had a problem finishing LSP ready with them. You just keep clean them good after each panel with a brush or better still - compressed air. As of late, I switched to B&S pads, they hold up better.
 
JuneBug- A follow-up with a milder pad never improved things for you?!?


 


Eh, maybe it's just me; this might be like how Theal wonders why I can't finish out with M105, like uhm...maybe I'm ...special :o
 
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