NXT is a cleaner wax?!?!

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ZeroKool

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hey everybody,



Does NXT have cleaner wax properties because all my prep work on my car - the 3m hand glaze and polish - have seem to just disappear.



After glazing the car, all my swirls were non exsistant... then I did a coat of NXT and now I can see every freakin one...



Not a happy camper...
 
This has been covered a couple of times before. You might want to look down in the Meguiars forum.



The short answer is yes.
 
I have used it on oxidation to see how it does and it definitely has some cleaning ability. I don't know if its through solvents or abrasives, but it does a good job at it. It also removes swirls too well to not have abrasives in it. Anything that advertises that it 'eliminates' swirls has to have abrasives in it.
 
ZeroKool said:
hey everybody,



Does NXT have cleaner wax properties because all my prep work on my car - the 3m hand glaze and polish - have seem to just disappear.



After glazing the car, all my swirls were non exsistant... then I did a coat of NXT and now I can see every freakin one...



Not a happy camper...
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And why would you top a glaze like 3M's with something else than a pure natural wax? any synthetics would have problems with it :confused: unless it had cleaners to remove it and bond properly :rolleyes:
 
Jngrbrdman said:
I have used it on oxidation to see how it does and it definitely has some cleaning ability. I don't know if its through solvents or abrasives, but it does a good job at it. It also removes swirls too well to not have abrasives in it. Anything that advertises that it 'eliminates' swirls has to have abrasives in it.
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Have you ever felt NXT or rubbed it between your fingers? It feels like lotion. Whatever cleaning ability it has must be chemical. As far as the swirls, it is more than likely hiding and not removing.
 
A better course of action would be to try eliminating the swirls. Even if NXT or any protectant for that matter allowed the hiding agents to remain in place they (swirls) would re-appear over time. Treat all protectants with equal prep. You're find there is only minor differences in the out-come in appearances which may skew your desire to use one over (instead of) another. If covering (hiding) surface imperfection is your desired method, a good carnauba would be a better route to follow.



Welcome to Autopia. :wavey
 
jgv said:
And why would you top a glaze like 3M's with something else than a pure natural wax? any synthetics would have problems with it :confused: unless it had cleaners to remove it and bond properly :rolleyes:
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Could I reglaze the car and then cover with Meguires Gold Class or an Insulator wax?



Basically, will the glaze stick now that NXT is on it?
 
SpoiledMan said:
Have you ever felt NXT or rubbed it between your fingers? It feels like lotion. Whatever cleaning ability it has must be chemical.
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Actually if you rub DACP between your fingers it feels like a lotion too. I think any abrscives we are dealing with in either case are too small to feel with your fingers.
 
Jesstzn said:
Actually if you rub DACP between your fingers it feels like a lotion too. I think any abrscives we are dealing with in either case are too small to feel with your fingers.
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That is true however if you do them back to back, you will feel the difference.
 
SpoiledMan said:
That is true however if you do them back to back, you will feel the difference.
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Yeep .. I know .. I did ... but you still won't feel the abrasives. Just feels like 2 different lotions. One Lime .. one Almond.
 
I think the bottom line here is if you are relying on products to "hide" your swirls rather than remove them then you are going to be consistantly dissapointed. There just wouldn't be a market for the products we all use to remove swirls if there was an easy, consistant and reliable method of hiding them.



I would use a more agressive product to remove the swirls and then try the product of your choice to protect the paint.
 
rjstaaf said:
I think the bottom line here is if you are relying on products to "hide" your swirls rather than remove them then you are going to be consistantly dissapointed. There just wouldn't be a market for the products we all use to remove swirls if there was an easy, consistant and reliable method of hiding them.



I would use a more agressive product to remove the swirls and then try the product of your choice to protect the paint.
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Would a possible solution be to purchase a PC and bluff the surface?



thanks!
 
Jesstzn said:
Yeep .. I know .. I did ... but you still won't feel the abrasives. Just feels like 2 different lotions. One Lime .. one Almond.
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Perhaps my hands are softer? ;) I feel the difference.
 
rjstaaf said:
Sure, a PC would certainly make the job easier but, you may also need to use a more agressive polish than you have been using as well.
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Your suggestion is then?



is gold class a good toper wax?
 
ZeroKool said:
Your suggestion is then?



is gold class a good toper wax?
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Instead of Gold Class or NXT, until you have the swirls removed, you would get the best results with a paste wax like Meguiars #16 Pro Paste Wax or #26 High Tech Yellow Wax.
 
ZeroKool- What Scottwax said :xyxthumbs I'd go over the surface with some kind of mildly abrasive polish to at least do *something* about the swirls. You probably won't get them all out and no, you won't remove too much clearcoat. Then follow with something like the Meg's #16.



Which polish? Meg's #80, 1Z's Paint Polish, and 3M's PI-III MG (pn 05937) all come to mind. All work OK by hand, better by PC, and are mild but effective. But again, I wouldn't expect perfection.



In your case, products like NXT and GC, which contain mild cleaners, are probably not what you want.
 
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