NXT + #80 Speed Glaze

Dave N

My PC goes to 7...
After reading some good comments about #80 Speed Glaze topped with NXT I decided to try this combination for myself. The last product I put on my truck was back in October when I put a few layers of Z2 and Z5 over AIO. It's only been washed a couple of times in the past 2-3 months, and those were the hurry-up type that induced a fair amount of swirls (when I say "a fair amount of swirls", understand that I am talking Autopian standards here!). There was virtually no beading action left, which makes me think that the Zaino protection is near it's end after 4 months out in the elements. While I've used several different "swirl-remover" type polishes to get swirls out in the past, I've never used a polish or glaze for the purpose of filling swirls. So, I was anxious to see what #80 and NXT would do for my situation, without spending a lot of time with the PC to get swirls out.



Sunday morning was upper 40's and the sun was out, a perfect February day for detailing in Illinois. I started out using the NXT wash, which didn't seem much different than any other decent car wash except for the scent. I normally use Gold Class car wash, and will probably stick to that from now on because I like the smell better. For time's sake, I only used #80 on half of the hood just to see what it would do. I didn't use the PC, and put it on by hand with a foam applicator after taping off half the hood for a +/- comparison. The results were a little odd -- after I removed it, my paint had that "holographic" or "buffer burn" appearance (which I've actually never experienced on this truck before). I don't know why it did this, maybe it really needs to be put on with a PC. Anyway, I could still see the swirls, but overall the paint did have a deeper, polished look. I then removed the tape and taped off another section at a 90 degree angle to the original tape to compare the #80/+NXT, #80/-NXT, and untreated paint. I put the NXT on the hood section, and it spread fairly well despite the cool temperatures. While the hood was curing, I continued to apply NXT to the rest of the truck without any further prep. One thing I noticed is that NXT did not remove even new water spots, so I guess the recently discussed cleaning ability must be very low.



After letting the NXT cure, I was prepared to be stunned and amazed upon removal. Unfortunately, the sky had clouded over by this time so I didn't have good sunlight to view the results. I suppose my ability to be wowed by any new product has been tempered from using just about every top-of-the-line sealant over the past few years, because although NXT looked nice I didn't think it was anything extraordinarily special. In fact, I couldn't tell a whole lot of difference between where I had applied it and where I hadn't, but hey, maybe my paint is already in near perfect condition! I want to say again that it was overcast, so that probably didn't help the viewing out any. As for swirl mark filling/hiding ability, the #80/NXT looked about the same to me as the NXT alone, and it probably filled in or hid about half of the swirls I had. The NXT did get rid of the "buffer burn" appearance from the #80 though.



My conclusion is that NXT is a good product, and most likely comparable to Platinum or Blackfire in appearance. I really need to see it in full sunlight to make a final determination though. The #80 was a bit disappointing by hand because it didn't hide the swirls like I thought it would. I guess I was expecting it to be heavy with oils and really fill in the swirls and wet the paint. After shaking it up, it did look like an emulsion of some sort. I'm still eager to try #80 with a PC to see what kind of look I can get.



Here are the glory pics (the passenger side of the hood has the #80, and you can see how cloudy it was):

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My guess would be that the #80 was not worked long enough and the abrasives did not break down. I have used gallons of speed glaze and never had that problem. I typically use it with the PC or rotary, but have ocassionally used it by hand. By hand, I alway use a folded terry cloth towel to increase the "bite." I work it until it is almost gone section by section, but do not remove it until I have applied it to the entire car.



I have also found that you have to really shake it up well, especially if it is cold.



BTW, the truck looks really nice. I bet it looks even better in the full sun.
 
Just to chime in here a little,



#80 Speed Glaze contains an abrasive that cuts fast and then breaks down very quickly. Best results will be achieved when applied by machine.



If you get a chance, maybe you could apply the speed glaze using a foam polishing pad, like a W-8006, (or equivalent) on a PC on about the 4.5 to 5.5 setting. Work the product well using overlapping motions. Then apply the NXT using either the PC, or by hand.



Then inspect. Just a suggestion for best results using #80 Speed Glaze.



Mike
 
OK, based on what you both said I probably got the "bite" of #80 without the breakdown. I rubbed with the foam pad for a while, but not until the product was gone. Like I said, I'm really anxious to try this with my PC because I'm always searching for something to darken my paint.



BTW, that's Art in my avatar. I really miss him doing the weekday shows, but at least he's still on weekends...
 
Dave N said:
BTW, that's Art in my avatar. I really miss him doing the weekday shows, but at least he's still on weekends...



I worked for Hewlett-Packard for 8 years, (I think), way too long. Mostly 12 hour shifts, 6:00pm to 6:00am. I purchased two Recoton 900mghz Wireless Radio Headsets both with approximately 6 hours of rechargeable batter life.



I could listen to the radio, hands-free for my entire shift and post to the Usenet Newsgroups, or Discussion forums. (Computers were everywhere of course). For probably 5-6 years I never missed an Art Bell show. Love listening to both the sane people and the nuts out there call in.



There were some really great interviews too, like Father Martin Malachi, Stan Deyo, John Lear, etc. And I'll never forget Charlie - liberal from California (That was how Charlie introduced himself when he called in)



Ahhh the good ole days... Don't ever listen anymore however... anything interesting taking place?



Mike
 
Dave-swirl removers work best by hand using a folded terry cloth towel. Like ebpcivicsi said, it gives the product more bite. In addition, you can apply more even pressure which prevents micro-marring and you can generate a decent amount of heat to help break the abrasives down. Work a section at a time and then refold the towel. You will get noticably better results that way over foam pads by hand.
 
I worked for Hewlett-Packard for 8 years, (I think), way too long. Mostly 12 hour shifts, 6:00pm to 6:00am. I purchased two Recoton 900mghz Wireless Radio Headsets both with approximately 6 hours of rechargeable batter life.



I could listen to the radio, hands-free for my entire shift and post to the Usenet Newsgroups, or Discussion forums. (Computers were everywhere of course). For probably 5-6 years I never missed an Art Bell show. Love listening to both the sane people and the nuts out there call in.



He-he! I do a version of that here where I work. I bought an FM transmitter kit and run my computer audio out through it. That way I can "broadcast" internet streams and listen anywhere in the building with a portable headphone radio. I usually play Coast To Coast weekends, because that's when Art is hosting now. But if the weeknight host (George Norry) has an interesting guest on I'll listen to that. If you pay a subscription fee, you can access streams of all the past shows, and that's what I do. If it's a really good show I save it on my computer and then listen with my iPod. I listened to Art Bell nightly in 1998 for the year that I lived in Texas, but now I just can't stay up that late and then get up at 6am for my job.



Scottwax, thanks for the tip. I'll try that on a section next time if I don't use the PC.
 
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