Nxt + #16

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Scottwax

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I finally decided to top NXT with a carnauba and figured I'd try #16 Professional Paste Wax first. I haven't used #16 in a while and forgot just how nice a look it has. Anyway, on top of NXT, #16 added noticable wetness to the paint. It really is a nice look. I've got it on my car and a metallic black BMW 745 (took pics of it) that I should have posted in the next few days.



If you are looking for something to top NXT with and have a container of #16, it is definitely worth trying.
 
Scott,



That is something I have wanted to try myself. I have a tin of #16 on order. I am also curious to see what #26 would look like over NXT. I am hoping it will add some wetness as well as darken the paint a bit.



The weather here just hasn't been very cooperative lately. Things warmed up a bit today and I spent a good bit of the afternoon detailing the interior of my Mustang. I am hoping that tomorrow I will be able to wash, clay and apply a layer or two of NXT and top it with #26.
 
Bob-it was supposed to be 62 and partly sunny, but ended up being only 58 and cloudy the whole day. I am so ready for 100 degree days!
 
C-MDX said:
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Originally posted by Scottwax

I should have posted in the next few days.
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How about #20 topped with #16?



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A question about topping with any carnauba --- When you feel it is time to reapply the sealant (in this case NXT), how will prepare the paint surface before it's application? Will you remove the carnauba top coat with a polish?



Until last summer I used only carnauba waxes, no sealants. I have been so impressed by the sealants that I have chosen (MPPP and BLACKFIRE) that I have not even considered topping them. The MPPP is on a silver Tacoma. The BLACKFIRE is on a black Dodge Hemi. I QD the tacoma with Quik Detail and the Hemi with BLACKFIRE QD. Both trucks are daily drivers and see a lot of dirt and dust.



That said, I'm slightly tempted to get out my 10 year old can of #16 and layer a coat over the BLACKFIRE before my next detail just to see what happens.



Tom
 
Scottwax- Glad to hear you're liking the #16. It's not EXACTLY like P21S/S100, but *IMO* if everyone who uses THOSE waxes tried #16, Meg's wouldn't be able to make enough of it!



blkZ28Conv- They are really two pretty different waxes. The #26 part of this is from memory, as I haven't used #26 in ages, but besides being in different "lines" (#16 is in the old Mirror Glaze line, it's Meg's original, thus oldest wax, unchanged since introduction), they contain very different ingredients. Both have NO cleaners, they're "straight waxes". The #16 is a "heavier" wax, it'll hide imperfections better and it goes/stays on thicker, possibly leaving more of a "sacrificial barrier". And the #16 seems "brighter", wetter and more reflective (at least to me). *I* found it easier to use than #26.



The #26 "darkens" and "deepens" the paint more, so maybe it has more oils in it (that's the feeling I got when I used it). They definitely give two very different looks, and it's not a subtle difference. If you compared them side-by-side (in the can or on the car) you'd see what I mean.



EDIT- Jesstzn- good linking/thinking. I couldn't type as fast as you found that post :D
 
Thanks Accumulator,

After reading Scott's, Bob's (Aurora 4.0) and your post I might have to add another never to be completely used up container of wax to the arsenal. ;)
 
blkZ28Conv- "never to be completely used up" is *right*, a can of #16 will literally last for years. Heh heh, for as long as you've been doing this, isn't it funny that you haven't tried it yet? ;)
 
I just finished with a coat of #16 topped with Souveran x 2 a day apart.



My tub of #16 arrived from Autopia and when I opened it, it was cracked in thirds :( But it still worked :D
 
Accumulator said:
blkZ28Conv- "never to be completely used up" is *right*, a can of #16 will literally last for years. Heh heh, for as long as you've been doing this, isn't it funny that you haven't tried it yet? ;)
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Yes :o,

I always thought #16 and #26 were interchangeable (same basic product). That's what so great about Autopia - unlimited amount of knowledge about products, detailing in general, opinions, techniques, sources of error, and corrective actions. :bounce
 
Spilchy said:
I just finished with a coat of #16 topped with Souveran x 2 a day apart.



My tub of #16 arrived from Autopia and when I opened it, it was cracked in thirds :( But it still worked :D
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How'd you like the #16/Souveran combo? I think I know what you were after there..



Yeah, the #16 WILL crack apart. It's a funny product; it sorta "hardens" in the can but it still "liquefies" quite easily. IMO the "liquefying" bit is one of the reasons it works so well by machine (not that there's anything wrong with hand applicaton). Remember to try to think of it as a "liquid wax that's only solid in the can".



blkZ28Conv- Yeah, there isn't much that doesn't get touched on here. :bounce indeed!
 
My impressions of the differences between the two are exactly the same as 'Cume's.



I do remember reading somewhere, though, that #16 has been updated a couple times. Not a lot, and not recently, but some. Of course, I'm getting old, and my memory is becoming a thing of convenience rather than a useful tool.





Tom
 
Mosca said:
I'm getting old, and my memory is becoming a thing of convenience rather than a useful tool.





Tom
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LMAO!!!! :bow Completely understand. As the knowledge builds over the years, it gets a little hard to sort thru the files. ;)
 
Mosca said:
My impressions of the differences between the two are exactly the same as 'Cume's.
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Me too. #16 seems to have a harder looking shine that is very wet. #26 has more of a deep glow and softer look to it.



BTW, #16 beads like mad! We had some storms go through this morning and the beading is very similar to S100s. Real tight.
 
I'd be real interested to see what NXT topped with #16 would look like on a white car. I just applied NXT to mine yesterday, and was impressed. I've used #26, which was replaced when I tried #20. I really liked the look #20 gave, and now now there's NXT! NXT seems to give my white a shimmer, and clearer reflections than even #20. It rained today, and the NXT beads very tightly. And it does improve visually, and become slicker to the touch, after curing over night.

If #16 makes paint "brighter, wetter, and more reflective", this may be a very good wax to top NXT with on white. You guys talked me in to it, I'll get another container of wax....

Now, on my shelf, if I put my waxes in numerical order, where do NXT and the old Gold Class go?

Thanks...



Dave
 
Dave-that Expidition has #20/#16 on it and even though it was brand new when I polished and waxed it, the owner and her boss both noticed a significant improvement the 'whiteness' of the paint and said it looked wetter.
 
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