Noob need product recommendation - Lacquer

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Chuckmotor

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I spent many hours today detailing my car by hand (oh how I wish I had a buffer! My wrists REALLY wish I had one!). My 1992 BMW, which was not too well kept until I acquired it a year ago, is black. The paint looks much shinier, much cleaner, and a lot slicker now that I polished it up.

However (:eek: gasp! :eek: ), under heavy light I notice that the black paint seems a little grayish. In my garage, the Bimmer sits next to brand new Mercedes E320, which is also black, and even under normal garage light it is obvious that the BMW's paint is more gray and more faded than the Benz. What can I do to make the car a deeper, richer black? Can I get rid of this gray paint? I plan on purchasing a random orbital buffer in the next month, so are there any good products I can use on the buffer that will help?

And one more thing (sorry, I'm curious and trying to learn :) ). I also have a good share of little scratches everywhere. Please help me with that!

Thankyou, Autopians, for your sage advice! Autopia has been a HUGE help in my car detailing ventures! I've learned so much.

By the way, here is what I did today on the paint:

Wash to remove wax

Wash with car shampoo

Meguair's paint cleaner (in some areas-- not the entire car)

Meg's #7 polish

Meg's #26 (pretty good stuff :up )

(Great weather here in Charlotte, NC! Sunny, 65 degrees... great for detailing!) :cool:
 
Prehaps its fading or oxidizing? You might want to try a more aggressive polish to remove it, but I don't know what exacty is the problem since I haven't seen it.



Or you can try many, many layers of Klasse which some people claim to deepen and darken the paint.
 
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<em class='bbc'>Originally posted by puterbum [/i]
<strong class='bbc'>Was it there before you polished? If not, is it only where you polished? [/b]</blockquote>
Yes, it was there before I polished. I was hoping the polish would take that old paint out. I looked at the car again, and I noticed that it is more of a brownish-black than a grayish-black. Does oxidation turn paint brown? Could it be that? Or maybe a more aggresive polish is the answer. The whole car is a brown-dull-black. Any recomendations for a polish that is more aggressive???
 
I also have an early single stage paint E36 and most likely your painthas faded somewhat. Mine is Red and I have to polish it about 3 times a year to stay ahead of the oxidation. Use FI-II with a PC and a yellow cutting pad. Don't be surprised if a significant amount of black paint comes off on your pad. You might have to clean your pad once or twice before you're done. Follow this with Klasse AIO and SG and it wll look great again.
 
The use of Finnesse It 2 followed by several coats of Klasse SG sounds like a pretty good idea. I absolutely swear that 5-7 coats of Klasse SG will give you a darker and deeper looking color to your car. Actually, the different appearance will begin to be noticeable before that many coats, buy after a good 5 coats, you should really see a difference. Laters
 
After all these Klasse layers and want your black to have a warm deep black, wet look to it; try some Blitz or Souveran wax.



Good advice offered already, just wanted to metnion the option of adding a carnauba.
 
Hi All,

I restore older motorcycles. Most of the paint work I do in in acrylic lacquer.
For years I've been using 3m PerfectIT rubbing compound and Meguiars Swirl remover with a 3" rotary air buffer after all the wet sanding etc. You guys do this all day long so I'm looking for a modern system.. from the 1500 up to final polishing.
Opinions?

Regards,
Jim
 
Welcome to TID Jim, laquaer paints can be a little tricky with these modern day compound and polish's that were made for the newer paints and clears. I would go the way you have mention or try one of these:

1) M01 with wool pad on a rotary, M80 with Meg's W8006 6.5-Inch Soft Buff Foam Polishing Pad with a DA and follow up with M07 by hand application.

2) M95 with a wool pad and a rotary, M205 with a Meg's Yellow Mirror Glaze W8207B on a DA or Rotary, and then Blackfire Midnight Sun Paste Wax by hand.

3) M105 with a 4" PFW Wool Pad and a Rotary, M205 with a Mirror Glaze 4" Foam Polishing Pad W8204 or a Lake Country 4" Flat Orange foam Pad on a DA or Rotary, Follow up with M205 and Lake Country 4" Flat White pad or Black. Hand apply Wax to finish off.
 
Thnaks for the ideas, much apprciated. I've been doing all my stuff with a 3" air rotary but the speed regualtion in nonexitant. Is the Griot's 3" DAs any good. I'm trying to enter the 21st century.
Have to read up on the Meguiars site.
Jim
 
jsantoro said:
Thnaks for the ideas, much apprciated. I've been doing all my stuff with a 3" air rotary but the speed regualtion in nonexitant. Is the Griot's 3" DAs any good. I'm trying to enter the 21st century.
Have to read up on the Meguiars site.
Jim
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The Griot 3" is more powerful than the 1st generation but still is weak to do any serious correction. Use the regular RO with a 3" rotary backing plate and a adapter for the RO/DA.
 
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