No PC yet, need a filler, #16, #7 ???

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zimmerDN

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Well I've been asking the same question over and over again. I am still looking for that one last item to use before applying Mothers Reflection wax.



I've been recommanded to use #80 at first because of the minor scratches and swirl marks on my 1 year old car. Then I was told it's too hard to do that by hand, use AIO. Then I found out AIO would leave a acrylic layer so I was told to use IZPP instead. Recently I read that #80 is actually not bad without using a PC. There of course you ppl have to also bring in the 3M SMR but write in small print that it might leave a haze on certain paint and dark colour. So I am back to square one again because I have a blue car.



What have you ppl done to me?? :nervous: :hairpull :wall



Now I think I should give up and find a filler instead. How about #16 or #7??? What's the difference? Can I still apply Reflection after the filler?



Search don't work with search terms like #80, #16 and etc. Google's links are not working either because of the recent changes done to the forum.
 
you can search for it like this *#16*

but #16 is a wax

#81 is a hand polish which will cover swirls and leave a deep wet look

the same as #7 but 81 is easier to use



#80 then #81 then your reflections wax
 
Yeah, #7 (and #5, #3, #81 too) are glazes. You top those with a wax like #16 to "lock them in" and make them last.



zimmerDN- IMO you're probably worrying too much/overthinking this.



#80 just isn't that bad by hand. Really. Same with 1Z PP. The "problem" with AIO isn't the acrylic it leaves, but rather the fact that it doesn't hide marring and often makes it look worse.



For the glazes, I find #5 the eaiest to use, with #3 and #81 second and #7 a distant third.
 
So I take it that 1Z PP has no filler effect. I think I'll get #80 with #81 (or #7, don't really know the difference). I'll do my best with #80 by hand and let the glaze to fill in the rest for me. Finally I will put Reflection to seal it. Damn that's a lot of work all done by hand.
 
Oh yeah, which store sells the #80, #81, #7 and etc. I don't think Pep boys has them. So which online store sell these (I want to order from only ONE store)?
 
zimmerDN said:
So I take it that 1Z PP has no filler effect. I think I'll get #80 with #81 (or #7, don't really know the difference). I'll do my best with #80 by hand and let the glaze to fill in the rest for me. Finally I will put Reflection to seal it. Damn that's a lot of work all done by hand.
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The PP has some filling/hiding abilities, but not as much as the Meg's stuff.



Yeah, that *is* a lot of work to do by hand. To make it easier, use #81 (or #5 or #3) instead of the #7. They're all similar, but #5 is the easiest and #7 is the hardest, effort-wise. But #5 is the least impressive looking (still my fave though) and #7 is the most impressive looking (still my least fave though).



The #80 will be the work. Get #5/#3/#81 and that step will be quick and easy. The waxing should be easy too.
 
Anyone know any online stores that sells all these meg products?? #80, #81?



I am from ontario so any places you know located within Canada is certainly welcomed as well.
 
I used #7 yesterday and did not care for it. If anyone wants the bottle its yours $5 shipped plus a free sample of something you will like
 
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