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el_novato

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My brother has a red 94 camry. It's never been detailed other than a regular car wash. The entire car is now a pinkish faded red. The hood has some major chipping going on. What process would help revive the paint if any? I'm not very familiar with the million chemicals mentioned here, so I kindly request that the names be spelled out please. I'm a Newbie but don't be too hard on me... :dance



Thanks !



e.n. :)
 
If it is red faded to pink, it's probably not clearcoat.



You can take a white terry towel and rub it on the paint. If it turns the towl pink, it OXIDATION.



The best method for oxidation removal is a deep-paint cleaner, with a PC (Porter-Cable buffer)... If you're new at this, that's probably not the way you'll want to go.



By hand, start with some polishing compound, light cut and see what kind of results you get. Rubbing compound can be a little dangerous for going through the paint to the primer, so be careful



Once you have the oxidation off, use your paint polish/sealant x2 or 3 coats.



Top with a nice wax and QD.....



Others will have better advise than me... Older paint and I don't get along!!!!! :)



I just looked at White Max's post above mine.... good advice !!!!! Nice job too.



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Thanks for the input fellas. Luster, based on what you said, it's oxidation. I remember he once tried to "wax" it. The towel turned pink after a few wipes. I've used a buffer before, but only to remove pasted wax, i.e. Turtle Wax. I'm not sure what type it is as it's been a while since I last used it. It has no speed settings and it spins and moves around. (what a newbie description!) I'm pulling it out of the garage this afternoon, so I'll post back with the info. White95Max, I'll read the thread you linked to shortly. Thanks for the Welcome!



e.n. :)
 
el_novato said:
Thanks for the input fellas. Luster, based on what you said, it's oxidation. I remember he once tried to "wax" it. The towel turned pink after a few wipes. I've used a buffer before, but only to remove pasted wax, i.e. Turtle Wax. I'm not sure what type it is as it's been a while since I last used it. It has no speed settings and it spins and moves around. (what a newbie description!) I'm pulling it out of the garage this afternoon, so I'll post back with the info. White95Max, I'll read the thread you linked to shortly. Thanks for the Welcome!



e.n. :)
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Sounds like what you have is a 9 or 10 inch orbital buffer. They are fine for apply liquid wax but it will not offer any cleaning power.
 
White95Max, read that post. All I can say is WOW!. :drool: I really hope I can make the Camry look like that! But I think that it's a bit worse than that. 3Dog, you jogged my memory and that's exactly what it is. When the paint is brought back like that, how long do the results last? With proper care and without proper care? Also, where do you guys get your supplies? I'm in Grand Prairie, TX, sandwiched between Dallas and Fort Worth. Anybody here buy from Autogeek.net?



e.n. :)
 
el_novato said:
White95Max, read that post. All I can say is WOW!. :drool: I really hope I can make the Camry look like that! But I think that it's a bit worse than that. 3Dog, you jogged my memory and that's exactly what it is. When the paint is brought back like that, how long do the results last? With proper care and without proper care? Also, where do you guys get your supplies? I'm in Grand Prairie, TX, sandwiched between Dallas and Fort Worth. Anybody here buy from Autogeek.net?



e.n. :)
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Thanks for the compliment. Hopefully it gets me enough votes to win the Contest, so I can order some more AIO! :xyxthumbs



The results will last like that as long as you want, with regular maintenance. Apply a paint cleaner and sealant a couple times a year, and it will never have the opportunity to fade back to that point.



I'm ordered many times from Autogeek. I've never had any problems with them.
 
You could also go with Megs ColorX, which is available just about anywhere.

As said earlier, if you can remove the dead stuff, then polish up, then seal, you'll be good to go. Older red single stage is difficult to keep up, Toyotas are notorious for this. It will fade quickly if maintenance is neglected, so make sure you (or your bros) maintain quarterly.
 
Will this kit do the job? I'm still reading and learning about the many chemicals used. So I'm not very sure on what I need to buy. Please advise! Thanks!



e.n. :)
 
Klasse All In One Polish will remove..... minor swirls
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All-In-One contains no abrasives
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I always wondered how/why this claim is made......I mean I kind of know why, its just not really a fair statement.....

As for your question.....Your still lacking a polish to remove scratches and swirls......AIO is no doubt, a great oxidation remover, and a good start.

1. AIO

2. A mild polish, nothing too strong

3. Vanilla Moose or Red Machine Glaze

4. a Nuba or Sealant. (S100, Nattys, Carn. Moosewax etc.....or Wolfgang, Four Star, Opt Car Wax route.)
 
Hey Hey Hey,



Welcome to Autopia! Another big vote for both AIO and ColorX (although you will only need one or the other). White95Max provided a great before & after using AIO. Here's a great one for ColorX if you decide to go that route. Personally, I prefer AIO in most cases, but I have not been able to find it locally - I bought ColorX at Wally-World for around $5. A key thing about oxidation - It needs to be "worked out evenly" as opposed to "wiped off quickly". A simple swipe of AIO or ColorX will not remove oxidation.



The kit that you selected is a great package. I find all the items included are top-notch - Read up on the forums and for the most part, the majority will agree...Also read up on Sealant Glaze application - this topic has differing opinions. On a side note, I would look into getting a dedicated polish for removing/minimizing swirls



Good Luck and nice to see another DFW'er here,

MCA



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I appreciate the link and the welcome MCA! It seems to me that the kit is missing #2 and #3 from Patrick's post, is that correct? As for the swirl remover, I already have a couple of bottles of that. Although I wouldn't have to thought to use had it not been mentioned here. MCA, the link you provided is very interesting because of the few products used to obtain excellent results. Based on how much it's "worth" to my bro, I'll either go that route or get the kit from autogeek.net. I appreciate the input fellas!



MCA, where's this Wally-World place you mentioned? Do they have a website?



e.n. :)
 
Novato, Im just worried the kit may be overkill for you. You may want to price out only what you need and go from there....My thinking is if your dealing with oxidation, and we all know red isn a UV friendly color, it just doesnt make sense to use AIO, and then top that with a Carnauba on red......I would opt for just the SG. And then again, SG can be difficult. I havent used it on red's before, but I have on friendly colors like silver, and had difficulty.

AIO or ColorX, a friendly polish, sealant, a few MF's and foam apps, and your good to go!
 
Patrick, based on what you posted I picked these products out, what do ya think?



1. ColorX

2. Meguiar's #80 Speed Glaze

3. Meguiar's #20 Polymer Sealant



Process:



1. Wash the car

2. Clay it

3. Apply ColorX

4. Meguiar's #80 Speed Glaze

5. Meguiar's #20 Polymer Sealant



How's that sound?



e.n. :)
 
Thats a great start....ColorX will remove the oxidation.....and what did ya spend? $7.50 max?

80 will polish it up real nice, removing light swirls, and any remaining oxidation.....theres another $15.00 ?

and 20 will seal it up nice, go for two coats in total for equal coverage...another $15.00? So for under $40.00, you can transform that beast!
 
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