New truck protection

JasonC8301

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On my first day working with NY Detailer. I got to try out three of his paint products and one tire dressing.



The first one was the Foam Pad Machine Glaze.



Description

Foam Pad Machine Glaze: Used by machine utilizing a finish foam pad. Removes medium to heavy oxidation and minor scratches. Clean & protects in one easy step. Contains synthetic & chemical cleaners, durable polymeric materials and space age paint sealant. This product is safe for all new & cured painted surfaces.



I used this product with the PC and a white polishing pad from CMA, I removed it with a Meguiars MF. It applied and buffed like a dream, much easier than Pinnacle PCL or Meguiars #7. This product was used on a white Mazda pick up truck. The paint was oxidized but had minimal swirling (from what I could see, but had some scratches here and there.) I applied the product at 2 with moderate pressure, then moved it up to 4-5 until it hazed over. I then removed the residue with a Meguiars MF. The resulting finish, it didn't remove all the tar on the lower panels, but took off maybe 10% (compound with PC didn't even move the remaining ones with a cutting foam pad.) The white was whiter and clearer. The reflections were sharper. The surface was smoother (but not as smooth as it could of been with clay/cutting compound.)



After polishing with the Foam Pad Machibe Glaze, I used the Final Polish.



Description

Final Polish: This is a long lasting finish wax. Product removes light oxidation, polishes, brightens and adds depth dark colors. Six month durability. This product is safe for all new & cured painted surfaces.



It went on like Klasse SG, really easy, like spreading warm butter. buffing it off was also easy, like OG Blitz wax.



The resulting finish, deeper and a little clearer.



I used NY Detailer's Professional Detail spray a.k.a QD in the door jambs of the white pick up. The door jambs were a dark brown from all the dirt. One spray per jamb, a quick wipe and buff, and it was all clean and white again.



Professional Detailer Spray: Leaves a high gloss finish. Cleans & enhances all paint finishes. Quick & easy spray. Great for showroom & final detailing.



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If I was pressed for time and wanted to have a car done to good-very good standards, I would reach for these products. Easy to work with, great results for the time spent on car. The products are inexpensive ($21 for a 32 oz. bottle of Machine Glaze and $22 for 32 oz. of Final Polish, should last a long time for a weekend detailer.) but these products work, I've used them and seen the results first hand



If I had time to spend on a car and do a complete detail (clay, remove swirls, seal, wax), I would reach for my Klasse/Souveran and other boutique products.



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Looking at the big picture, these are two completely different markets. One for professional detailers and one for enthusiast detailers. The professional detailer has lots of cars to detail and must buy products in bulk, some pros may love to detail but want to earn money out of the business too. The enthusiast detailers (like most Autopians), can spare the extra money to buy more expensive products that are not sold in bulk (ie. Zaino, Pinnacle, Blackfire, etc. etc.) The weekend detailer also has time to experiment with application methods and can afford to have a whole shelf of product that has not meet their expectations (I have a box of product that I don't use anymore, mostly TW, AA, and some Meguiars.)



The professional detailer uses bulk products and time is a major factor. The products must work well, apply/remove like a breeze, give results, and be cost effective. The detail methods must be set so there is no error in a detail and the detail is being done in an efficient manner. The customer has to be satisfied.



Thanks for reading,

Jason
 
Nice job, as usual, Jason. Keep us informed as you pick up more tips on pro products. You really are an Obsessed Detailer!!! Enjoy!
 
I'll keep you guys posted. If you need more info on these products e-mail me (like if you want to buy them :D )



Whoops forgot about the tire dressing. The description is on my desktop and I'm currently on my labtop, so I'll write up that review tomorrow.



Jason
 
Are these the products Jason? http://carpolishes.safeshopper.com/index.htm?535

I see these guys at car shows all the time selling their stuff. They are either lousy salesman or their products are not very cost effective. They said you can get 4-7 applications using a quart bottle of Final Polish. At that rate it certainly does not sound cost effective.
I was also not impressed by their demonstration of the Final Polish.

Since you used it, how many applications would you say you can get out of a Quart container?
 
Hey RIC, I'm pretty sure they are the same product, the final polish (middle) and the foam pad machine glaze (right)



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4-7 applications per quart bottle....sound like a bad sales man to me.



I would say 3/4 to 1 ounce is sufficient enough for a medium sized car. So 32-40 applications from one quart bottle seems about right.



The poor performance of the product......bad application technique by the applier.



Jason
 
I didn't say it had poor performance, just that it did not impress me. It seemed no different then Astroshield or Liquid Glass. It felt like it contained abrasives so I doubt layering it would make a difference.
 
I have been using this products for a long time a well as selling them.

I dont want this to be like "spam", Jason saw first hand what these products can do in such a quick amount of time.

I mainly sell this products to detailers and body shops as they are all silicone free and body shop safe.

i just replied here as i saw jason but the thread on the products i sell and use.

*not meant to be "spam"
 
Hello all. Me and 4 of my co workers will be getting brand new Suburbans soon. They will all be white and be outfitted with emergency lights and vinyl decals. These are EMS command vehicles. I want to protect mine right off the dealer lot, and help it stay looking great through all the hard use the trucks get. Not to mention the rough wash jobs we do at work (community brush, 50 gallon drum of concentrated truck wash and so on). At first I was thinking about doing Liquid Glass but after looking around at black fire products, I was thinking maybe BFWD? Also what can I put on the glass to keep from getting hard water spots? Any advice for keeping the LED emergency lights and headlights looking fresh? I want my truck to be the best looking one right off the bat and years down the line.
 
Yes Blackfire Wet Diamond will work great for you on the paint, glass and lenses.

Using a brush to wash will dull and scratch the surface.
 
Opti-coat is probably your best bet to protect. But nothing can totally prevent what abusive washing will do. Wash it at home and don't let anyone else touch it and keep it sealed. Sounds like that will go much farther than anything else that can be recommended. Plenty of good advice here to properly take care of it.
I'm seeing a great opportunity to demonstrate the difference between well cared for vs. abused vehicles.
 
Welcome to truth in detailing kmcbride22, yes for max protection for those vehicles then I would go with Opti-Coat 2.0 on all of them. This will help in protecting them from the elememts that they will come in contact with, on and off the job. :wizard:
 
I would also recommend using Opti-Coat for maximum protection against the harsh elements and conditions.
 
Thanks guys

Sounds like everybody is pretty much in agreement on the opti-coat. I will look into it and make sure it is something I can handle. Yes, I agree that I am going to need to wash this one my self at home if I really want to keep it looking it's best. Truthfully I am just so thankfull for the nice brand new (free)vehical that I feel like it's the least I can do for my company. It really will be intresting (to me anyway) to see the difference in the finish of the different trcks and how they are cared for. I should have time to do the Opti-coat before it gets decaled. We do all that stuff in house after we take possession of the vehicals. Let me ask one other thing. Someone must have read my post here, and somehow they replied to me through my youtube account. This guy says I should use something called AT-5. He included a few videos of him using it on some cars. He's telling me I can get a gallon of the stuff for $50. He is obviously a distributer of the stuff. His youtube account name is acrylicsealantAT5. Anyone know anything about this stuff?
 
Where to buy?

Right here thru this forum. Properautocare.com is the sponsor of these forums. And as a member and you mention TID10 at purchase time there will bw a discount...Good Luck....Steve
 
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