New Solo line from Meguiars?

My understanding of the Solo system from reading about on MOL is that it's specifically for freshly sprayed paint. This being the case I wonder how popular it will be (or useful for that matter) for detailers.
 
Mikeyc said:
My understanding of the Solo system from reading about on MOL is that it's specifically for freshly sprayed paint. This being the case I wonder how popular it will be (or useful for that matter) for detailers.
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Good Question Mikeyc,as most enthusiast and professional deatilers don't get much of a chance to work with new paint. I ask myself who is this product marketed too..
 
joe.p said:
I ask myself who is this product marketed too..
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Maybe paint & body shops? I haven't really read much about it, so I really wouldn't see why it would be of appeal to the general public if it's designed specifically for fresh paint.
 
my guess would be body shops and touchup places, i havent read about it yet but im gonna be working with a few freshly painted cars soon so i may look into it
 
joe.p said:
Good Question Mikeyc,as most enthusiast and professional deatilers don't get much of a chance to work with new paint. I ask myself who is this product marketed too..
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According to Mike Philips' post in the Solo product announcement thread this product is for the body shop market.

The big question really is . . . if this product is for body shops why all the hype about it on MOL? This is the product they showed the blurry pictures of and were supposed to announce, but it wasn't ready by the announcement date and everyone got pissed about it. So, why hype a product for body shops on a site frequented 99% by detailers?
 
Mikeyc said:
According to Mike Philips' post in the Solo product announcement thread this product is for the body shop market.

The big question really is . . . if this product is for body shops why all the hype about it on MOL? This is the product they showed the blurry pictures of and were supposed to announce, but it wasn't ready by the announcement date and everyone got pissed about it. So, why hype a product for body shops on a site frequented 99% by detailers?
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To: JP & Mickeyc,
The same questions where asked by members on there forum.they tossed the blurry pics ,changed the release date and then there products are to be used on new paint only.:confused:
 
i got banned from MOL for saying what a shambles that was about the new system

seems your alright on there only if your kissing asses

turns out most of the hot new items are the same old stuff in new packaging lol
 
You got banned? Lame. Well Meguiars is not on the top on list but the pads to the Solo system looks nice(foam pads).

Their is many similar system to the Solo system like Liquid ice and PPG SPP1001(one polish/compound and many pads). Go Meguiars!
 
Sound like something that I might need to take a look at.
One thing that has always bothere me is doing paint touchup and having to have the area not look as good as the rest of the vehicle for the length of time needed to do the touchup and let it cure properly.
So far, I haven't read anything about the product line, but maybe I should.

FWIW, I use quite a few Meguiar's products and while they, like any other company, have and do some things I don't necessarily care for, the ones I do use seem to work quite well.

Charles
 
After a short time looking at the hard to read information about the Solo line, I decided that if it was necessary to try to read what they had to say from the Meguiar's site, Solo was not for me. :)
Why in the world would a company spend a bunch of money designing a site and then let someone put together a bunch colors and backgrounds that make it so you can hardly read it?
It didn't take me 3 minutes to decide it wasn't worth the effort.
Kind of like the magazine articles where they print the text over a picture and let you pick out what is text and what is part of the picture. I don't bother to read those, either. :)

Charles
 
Mikeyc said:
The big question really is . . . if this product is for body shops why all the hype about it on MOL?
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The obvious answer is that it's Meguiars forum, they talk about and promote Meguiars products. If you can't debut a new product on your own forum, where can you promote it? Web-cars.com?

It may be a safe assumption to say that the majority of of MOL members are do it yourselfers that have no need for a product made for fresh paint, I'm sure that Meguiars realizes this and learned from the backlash.

With a large company like Meguiars, I bet the head honchos that give the orders probably aren't as in tune with the forum members as Mike Philips is but he does what they say to do cause that's how it is when you work for the man.
 
The Fuzz said:
The obvious answer is that it's Meguiars forum, they talk about and promote Meguiars products. If you can't debut a new product on your own forum, where can you promote it? Web-cars.com?

It may be a safe assumption to say that the majority of of MOL members are do it yourselfers that have no need for a product made for fresh paint, I'm sure that Meguiars realizes this and learned from the backlash.

With a large company like Meguiars, I bet the head honchos that give the orders probably aren't as in tune with the forum members as Mike Philips is but he does what they say to do cause that's how it is when you work for the man.
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My question was rhetorical, but a great answer none the less. :cool:
 
Here's my theory, every body shop I've ever been in or had friends work at - all used 3M products. Meg's is looked upon as a just another wax company like Turtle wax. SOOOOOOOOOOO, now Meg's is trying for a piece of the 3M pie. Nothing wrong with that, free enterprise afterall. My question is why does nobody on these forums ever say anything about 3M? I'm moving away from "boutique" products with high prices and having to mail order everything. My last purchase was at Carquest, got DG's PBA, 105 and AW - cheaper than any web site even with sales tax. Another thing I've run into with detailing cars is that every customer has heard of Meg's, DG and 3M - but you get that deer in the headlights look when you talk about anything else.
 
Junebug said:
Here's my theory, every body shop I've ever been in or had friends work at - all used 3M products. Meg's is looked upon as a just another wax company like Turtle wax. SOOOOOOOOOOO, now Meg's is trying for a piece of the 3M pie. Nothing wrong with that, free enterprise afterall. My question is why does nobody on these forums ever say anything about 3M? I'm moving away from "boutique" products with high prices and having to mail order everything. My last purchase was at Carquest, got DG's PBA, 105 and AW - cheaper than any web site even with sales tax. Another thing I've run into with detailing cars is that every customer has heard of Meg's, DG and 3M - but you get that deer in the headlights look when you talk about anything else.
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Interesting, but not what I have seen at all.
3M is no more common than Meguiar's in the body shops I have been in. Autoglym, Malco, Meguiar's, Menzerna as well as 3M, all show up in some of them.
I think it has more to do with a supplier than a particular product line. A supplier that calls on ashop and helps keep their inventory up to date is going to get the majority of their business. There must be almost as many suppliers of body shop specific products as there are suppliers of the hobby detailer products. Most any of them will do a good job if used correctly.
Duragloss products from a Car Quest store in my area is a lost cause. You would have to go to several and then you might not be able to get all the products you wanted.
While I'm using Duragloss and am happy with it, not very many people in this area have any idea what they make. Unfortunately, the Car Quest people also don't seem to have a clue. IMO, Duragloss sales would probably at least double with a good distribution network and some advertising. I'm sure they are smart enough to figure that out and evidently aren't interested in big volume.
As far as pricing, it's pretty hard to beat the prices on the Duragloss web-site and their shipping charges are unbelieveably low.

Charles
 
I can't speak for the popularity of one product over another in the body shop circles. I would think that the reason that you don't see the 3M product discussed in detail (it certainly is talked about just not as often) on the forums is simply that it isn't the most used products at the level the boards caters to. Whether someone likes Meguiar's products or not is an entirely different discussion but it certainly has to be one of the most widely known manufacturers on a world wide scale.
 
Well, like they say, your milage may vary, but I'm lucky to have a great CarQuest with the whole DG line as well as 3M and some Meg's Mirror Glaze products. They didn't have the PBA when I asked on Thursday, but had it for me by Friday afternoon when I swung by on my way home. Not knocking Megs stuff, I've used some and think the Mirror Glaze line is very good. As far as prices go, I checked and it was cheaper to buy at CarQuest, plus I got to browse around and add to my Christmas list.
 
I've been in a few local body shops over the years. Megs and 3m are pretty well known for their polishes. One very well respected industry insider told me that 3m has some of the best abrasives in the business. The downside to 3m is that they are fairly expensive-Megs is better on price. Bulk body shop suppliers are even more affordable and get a good percentage of business from heavy volume shops. Boutique products are more about marketing than performance-with some rare exceptions. Almost anything boutique can be equalled with top notch OTC/paint supply stores offerings from Duragloss, Mothers and Megs. Zaino is one of a few boutique product lines that is truly unique.
 
wannafbody said:
Boutique products are more about marketing than performance-with some rare exceptions. ....Zaino is one of a few boutique product lines that is truly unique.
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Is that right? Is it because Zaino does such a good job of removing swirls? I'm thinking you'll find a few that disagree with this belief. If your statement is correct that would mean that most of the people on these boards who choose boutique products are simpletons that have fallen for a good piece of marketing. They probably haven't tested a few products, made comparisons and made a choice one way or another, right? :cool:
 
wannafbody said:
Boutique products are more about marketing than performance-with some rare exceptions. Almost anything boutique can be equalled with top notch OTC/paint supply stores offerings from Duragloss, Mothers and Megs. Zaino is one of a few boutique product lines that is truly unique.
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Like GearHead I take exception to these comments as well. While I 100% agree with you that the differences between a Meguiar's or 3M polish and a boutique polish like Menzerna, Pinnacle XMT, or Optimum is like splitting hairs I certainly wouldn't say that just because something is boutique that its bark is bigger than its bite.

I would love to hear your reasoning on why Zaino is so much different than other boutique lines too. If you don't think Sal is a marketing master then you're kidding yourself.

As already mentioned, there are a lot of people on here who have tried many, many products. I don't think you can say it's all marketing because in the end a product has to perform too.
 
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