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Well, My first move will happen on Tuesday morning, I am going from a 2 car garage in a bad part of town into a 6 bay portion of a large tuning outfit in a decent part of town, good traffic centrally located. Grossman Tuning is pretty well established in Louisville and does alot of Audi and VW along with other European cars. I will be getting 6 bays of there warehouse style garage along with a lift. Retail should go up quite shortly and I already have to much to do by myself and I am losing my wifes help so she can promote our supply line. I would have hired someone by now but I really didnot have room for them, but I do now. I not sure how the pay will be based, but if you are a car dork like myself, it will be great surroundings to learn in. Anybody in the Louisville area that may be interested or if anyone has some ideas to throw my way, hit me up.
 
Offer $9 on Craiglist...$11 after 3 months. You'll get a lot of applications from young men with good backs. Have them wash, pre-vacuum, do windows, shop setup, and shop cleanup initially. If they show a good work ethic and capacity to learn, show them how to detail. You may have to hire/fire 3-5 until you get a good one.
 
AppliedColors said:
Offer $9 on Craiglist...$11 after 3 months. You'll get a lot of applications from young men with good backs. Have them wash, pre-vacuum, do windows, shop setup, and shop cleanup initially. If they show a good work ethic and capacity to learn, show them how to detail. You may have to hire/fire 3-5 until you get a good one.
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I am not sure if I will be able to go 9 initially, 7.50 is more what I was thinking if it were hourly, they would be considered subs so it is basically tax free for a while. I am shooting for someone like a college student who really loves cars. Besides the Detail work they will get to see alot of cool cars and may possibly get there feet wet tuning also, I do not see 11 after 3 months being a problem, but I have built the business up to where it is now on about $50 and a milk crate of supplys that I already have, and I am currently working 12+hours 6 days and 5+on sunday to keep up with about 15-20 cars a week. So it has been going nowhere but up
 
Make sure you have your sub-contractors and their contracts set up legitimately. There's ALOT of criteria that you need to have established to cover your butt. If you don't and something happens, you're personally on the hook for taxes and/or injuries and possibly more.
 
David Fermani said:
Make sure you have your sub-contractors and their contracts set up legitimately. There's ALOT of criteria that you need to have established to cover your butt. If you don't and something happens, you're personally on the hook for taxes and/or injuries and possibly more.
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Clay, please research the concept of "independent contractors". The IRS has very specific directives, and they seldom favor the use of a 1099. Simply put, if the sub is using your facility, your equipment, following your directions on a regular basis, that's an employee, not a sub.



In our industry, I'd define a sub as someone who has a skillset that I do not. He is used occasionally for specific issues. PDR and Leather seat repair are good examples...



Ain't no fun talking to the IRS. Do your homework...



Good Luck!



Jim
 
Subs, if done legally, can be a great way to structure your workers. I suggest consulting with an attorney and accountant to get things worked out legitimately. That’s what I did and I never looked back.

Here’s a short list of what I did:

-they signed a sub-contractor contract that my attorney created

-they were all DBA’s and payroll checks were paid to their company names

-they supplied all tools and supplies

-they had no set work schedule and were free to work for other contractors any time they choose





Remember, they are sub-contractors, not employees.
 
I may be at University of Cincy next fall. I think, however that that's at least 2 hrs from Louisville. That and I kinda like being my own boss... Good luck finding someone! I had a helper last summer for 6 weeks and I had them handle everything that wasn't related to polishing for the most part and it worked out well.
 
Labster said:
I may be at University of Cincy next fall. I think, however that that's at least 2 hrs from Louisville. That and I kinda like being my own boss... Good luck finding someone! I had a helper last summer for 6 weeks and I had them handle everything that wasn't related to polishing for the most part and it worked out well.
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1 and a half, an hour doing 90- good luck, I grew up in Cincy and my son lives there
 
Jimmy Buffit said:
Clay, please research the concept of "independent contractors". The IRS has very specific directives, and they seldom favor the use of a 1099. Simply put, if the sub is using your facility, your equipment, following your directions on a regular basis, that's an employee, not a sub.



In our industry, I'd define a sub as someone who has a skillset that I do not. He is used occasionally for specific issues. PDR and Leather seat repair are good examples...



Ain't no fun talking to the IRS. Do your homework...



Good Luck!



Jim
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Jim and the powell-bones guy(forgot yor name when I hit quote)



Thanks for this input, this is what I have my atty and cpa looking at right now, I believe that I have found the way to do this legally, like stated it is a contract for said worker between them and the Co. to work so many hours/wk with use of Co.'s tools, the only thing that we seem to be hung up on is my insurance, I am insured and bonded along with up to 2 employees, but they would not be recognized as employees if there were something that happened. I may end up restructuring it at the first of the year and just pay under the table until then, since that income would not be great enough to have to claim. I am supposed to have the plan together late in the week. I will post what they(atty and cpa ) came up with
 
here are some pix, was supposed to be cleaned out today, but it looks like it will be a day late



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Hi, I may be out of line but if you are interested, my husband and I operate a Detail shop in South Louisville and we could help you with your overload until you find a realiable employee, we are struggling with the same issue, finding reliable help with commitment. We could possibly work out a partnership if we get overloaded as well.
 
lucille1976 said:
Hi, I may be out of line but if you are interested, my husband and I operate a Detail shop in South Louisville and we could help you with your overload until you find a realiable employee, we are struggling with the same issue, finding reliable help with commitment. We could possibly work out a partnership if we get overloaded as well.
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Thank You for the offer, PM me your info sometime. I will see what happens but I am still able to work 80 hrs a week, although it is starting to take a toll on me, but I think I can take care of it all.



Thanks
 
will post pix of the move on wednesday, it has not stopped raining for 2 days, I have delivered 2 details while it was pouring out so it is a good time to move
 
Nice set up you have there. Much bigger than the average detail shop. (much bigger than mine anyways)



Sounds like alot of good advise on the sub-contractor thing too. That's exactly how I have done it so far. Although i think I'm in the same boat as alot of other professional detail shops. I can't seem to find any real detailers that want to work anymore. I get alot of younger kids just wanting jobs. (I think every business gets bogged down with that) But so far the 2 guys I've had work for me I seem to have to still babysit and double and triple check all their stuff. It's enough to drive a person insane here. Considering this business is almost purely based on reputation. Get just one hack job out the door and you could literally be ruined for quite some time.
 
imageautodetail said:
Well, My first move will happen on Tuesday morning, I am going from a 2 car garage in a bad part of town into a 6 bay portion of a large tuning outfit in a decent part of town, good traffic centrally located. Grossman Tuning is pretty well established in Louisville and does alot of Audi and VW along with other European cars. I will be getting 6 bays of there warehouse style garage along with a lift. Retail should go up quite shortly and I already have to much to do by myself and I am losing my wifes help so she can promote our supply line. I would have hired someone by now but I really didnot have room for them, but I do now. I not sure how the pay will be based, but if you are a car dork like myself, it will be great surroundings to learn in. Anybody in the Louisville area that may be interested or if anyone has some ideas to throw my way, hit me up.
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Huge congrats Clay on expaning your business! Grossman Tuning??? Aren't they off 1st Street near Broaway? The next time I am east of downtown, I may have to drive by and see how things look. Again, congrats!
 
Looks like you've got tools, supplies, and room to work in.



I assume you're spending at least 10 minutes with the car outside to double check the entire car, right?
 
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