I have been wanting to use the new Meguiar's D151 Paint Reconditioning Creme and a couple days ago I had the perfect chance! It's an 08 Jeep Patriot that had minor to moderate swirls and some minor hollograms. It was a one step job and I usually would go right for the M66 on a car like this. I decided to try the D151 and had great results. You can't see in the after pics because of the lack of sun we ended up with but it did a great job removing the defects and didn't haze the paint at all. The main thing that I was very impressed with was the shine it left. Much more like #21 than #66 in my opinion. Cut was also good and work time was as long as I wanted. I have since used it on 2 more cars with similar results. This stuff is awesome. On a 300C I did just yesterday I had deeper swirls to deal with and all I did to adjust my process was to use a little more D151 and work it longer. I got some REAL cut out of it then with no hazing. I still have the option of moving to speed 5 on the PC to get more cut and have not tried it on the rotary yet.
Thanks. It really is great. The more I use it the more I like it. The fact that it leaves such a great shine is big in my book. If you go to town with it I could see it having more cut than #83. M66 (my old one step) had less cut than #80 for reference.
Because it's in their detailer line. I read over on MOL that it's supposed to be between #83 and SOLO Creme. M66 was said to have the same cut as #80 but had less IMO.
Because it's in their detailer line. I read over on MOL that it's supposed to be between #83 and SOLO Creme. M66 was said to have the same cut as #80 but had less IMO.
Still would make sense to correlate between lines. What market is the Mirror Glaze line for, pray tell if it's not Detailers (Which have their own line?). Body shops?
Yeah I believe the Mirror Glaze line was originally designed for body shops. Obviously that has changed some through the years as more and more professional and enthusiast detailers have started using it. The detailer line is aimed at more the production detailer.
Still would make sense to correlate between lines. What market is the Mirror Glaze line for, pray tell if it's not Detailers (Which have their own line?). Body shops?
Yeah I believe the Mirror Glaze line was originally designed for body shops. Obviously that has changed some through the years as more and more professional and enthusiast detailers have started using it. The detailer line is aimed at more the production detailer.
Easy as most modern LSP's to remove. Much easier than #66. I worked it until it started to go clear and then let it haze before removal. I treated it just like #66. Basically work it like a polish but don't remove it right away. Do the whole car and wait for 15-20 minutes to remove. I think it's out now and has started shipping.
No I didn't. Being that's a wax I'm sure it has some filling abilities. I could however tell that it was cutting more the longer I worked it. That makes me think that it is more removing defects than just filling them.
As far as speed 6 I'm not really sure. I never use 6. If something isn't getting the job done at speed 5 I reach for the Makita. It has a lot of lubricity so I would imagine it would be fine at 6. With the new abrasives from Meguiar's having so much cut I have been on the lookout for micromarring with the PC. I have not experienced it yet though. Maybe the fact that they are so small has something to do with that? This stuff is directed towards volume production detailing. Basically think of it as an AIO with serious correcting ability. I will continue to use it as much as I can and some quirks may pop up.
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I would think applying a wax over it would be fine. I know any Meguiar's product will layer over it fine. I directly asked Mike Phillips about this and he said that even a pure polish/glaze will adhere over any of there LSP's...I was asking in reference to using #7 over ColorX before applying #21 when he gave me that answer. A combo I was thinking of with the new #151 would be to follow it with #66 if #151 left some hazing. After seeing the shine that #151 left I wouldn't want to do that anymore. #66 is not as good looking IMO. You could go for something along the lines of #21 though to get that extra layer of protection. That will probably be my new routine for our personal cars. They rarely need more than minor polishing but I do like to make a two step out of it and add another layer of wax. The old #66 didn't have enough cut to get the cars where I wanted so I found myself going with #80 followed by two coats of #21. With the cut of #151 and the protection it leaves behind I could get away with just one coat of #21 and have the 3 step (#80X1 and #21X2) turn into a two step (#151X1 and #21X1). Hope that all makes sense.
One thing I do really like is the fact that I can control the cut by simply working the product for shorter or longer periods of time. Since the abrasives don't have to break down they cut the same in the first 30 seconds as they do at 3 minutes from what I understand. I have not used it enough to say that is the case 100%. SO FAR that has been my experience but like I stated above that may change as I have more time working with it. I experienced this first hand on a Chrysler 300C I did a couple days ago. It had much deeper defects than the black jeep in this thread. I simply used a little more product and worked it much longer. I did a test spot working it the same as the Jeep and I could still see some buffer trails. I then did another test spot working the #151 for about twice as long on a new area of the car and it removed the buffer trails completely. The RIDS on the car where reduced but still there. I would not call it a miracle product but I am REALLY impressed with it so far. In line with the new compounds from Meg's.
Easy as most modern LSP's to remove. Much easier than #66. I worked it until it started to go clear and then let it haze before removal. I treated it just like #66. Basically work it like a polish but don't remove it right away. Do the whole car and wait for 15-20 minutes to remove. I think it's out now and has started shipping.
