New car paint scoured!

mtbgirl

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Any detailers in the SF Bay Area?

Yesterday I left work to find my new black car (1 1/2 months) covered in gypsum dust & 4 contractors putting their weight into dry rags trying to scrub it off. Nooooooo!!! Needless to say, the paint is now a mess of scratches & swirl marks.

I've been using the 2 bucket wash method..nice microfiber towels....and on Sunday had just given it it's first clay, AIO and UPP job. (All learned from this site!! Thanks to all!) It was looking about as good as a new Toyota paint job could look on a rather less-than-sexy Prius.

So, now I am looking for recommendations on a detailer close to Oakland CA that can polish out the swirls/scratches (they all look to be in the clearcoat layer, so am hoping no repaint is necessary). Someone w/experience who's obsessive about shiny black paint!

(I hope I put this in the right forum - I searched past posts but could find nothing)

Thanks for any advice you all can give me!!
And, yes, the contractor agreed to pay for it.
 
You were smart to post your question here and not on one of the Prius web forums like priuschat.com or priusonline.com. Too many clueless newbies on those forums, who got one sniff of Zaino and now they think they're experts.

FWIW, the Prius black may actually be a single-stage paint, not a basecoat/clearcoat. I've never seen one up close so I don't know for sure.

If you're a DIYer, or have an SO who is, you can probably buy a Porter Cable 7424, polishing and compounding pads, and a Menzerna IP/FPII starter kit for about the same as what you'll be charged to polish out your swirls. Menzerna polishes with a PC seem almost idiot-proof to me - I can't imagine anyone botching a job or marring their paint with them.

As the previous poster said though, pics are needed before a recommendation can be made.

2005 Toyota Prius Driftwood Pearl
2004 Acura MDX Sage Brush Pearl
 
Thanks - still looking for a Bay Area detailer..

I'll try to get ahold of a friend's camera for some photos (if it ever stops raining here).

TiredNGrouchy (your name is perfect) - I am a DIY but only up to a point w/detailing..don't think I'm ready to get a PC & all that gear quite yet. Maybe in a couple years. Sunday was the first time I'd even clayed a car & that was scary enough on a new paint job (though turned out great)! I also doubt the construction company would comp me for a PC/equip...unless I could figure out some other way to bill them...hmm...now you've got me thinking... And, yeah, I did think about posting on priuschat, but came to the same conclusion you did! Think the paint code is 202 - have heard rumors that it's everything from a tinted clearcoat to no clearc., to a full clearc - argh - who knows.

I'm still just looking for a detailer recommendation in the Bay Area in order to get the job done before the construction co 'forgets' they owe me for this!

(thinking farther..if I tried to do it myself it'd take me a few weeks to order/receive the equip, maybe another week or 2 to learn how to use it & find the time [and good weather - no garage] to actually get it done! Then, of course how to bill them..)

Sorry so long..
Thanks.
 
TiredNGrouchy said:
FWIW, the Prius black may actually be a single-stage paint, not a basecoat/clearcoat. I've never seen one up close so I don't know for sure.

According to Southeast Toyota Distributors Customer Service reps, Toyota does not have a single stage paint, period. Some Lexus' have SS, but according to the Toyota brass for my region, they are all CC.
 
JaredPointer said:
According to Southeast Toyota Distributors Customer Service reps, Toyota does not have a single stage paint, period.

I've heard too much conflicting information to take anyone's word on this. Someone on priuschat.com claimed their black was single-stage, and I told him that couldn't be true, because if it was, when he polished it, his buffing towel would turn black. He claimed it did, and that's how he knew it was single-stage.

I suppose it's possible that it's actually tinted clearcoat, but I've only heard of that on red, never on black.
 
Re: Thanks - still looking for a Bay Area detailer..

mtbgirl said:
I'm still just looking for a detailer recommendation in the Bay Area in order to get the job done before the construction co 'forgets' they owe me for this!

In case you don't get any leads, here are a couple ideas.

I used to live in Marin County (very affluent area) and knew the local P&S distributor. He knew almost every detailer in the county, and knew who was good. You might try calling P&S (www.pssales.com) to get the names of their East Bay and North Bay distributors, and see if they can give you a recommendation.

Another idea is to call the local Porsche and MBZ dealers' service departments, and ask them who details their cars.
 
TiredNGrouchy said:
I've heard too much conflicting information to take anyone's word on this. Someone on priuschat.com claimed their black was single-stage, and I told him that couldn't be true, because if it was, when he polished it, his buffing towel would turn black. He claimed it did, and that's how he knew it was single-stage.

I suppose it's possible that it's actually tinted clearcoat, but I've only heard of that on red, never on black.

I felt that way as well, but I did a lot of research for myself and spoke with as many "Toyota" people that I could. The highest guy I could speak with was pretty much the head of customer relations for Souteast Toyota Distributors, and, according to him, the word from corporate is that Toyota does not do a single stage paint. Just wanted to make my "source of information" a little more clear. Until I see proof or hear different, I suppose I will believe what Toyota says.
 
PM or call Beemerboy...he lives in your area , in obsessed with black cars and can probably fix your problems ...his cell # is available.
 
Poorboy said:
PM or call Beemerboy...he lives in your area , in obsessed with black cars and can probably fix your problems ...his cell # is available
his cell #,are you unhappy with bemmer :rofl .there goe's 6,000 DC members calling to say hello.
 
mtbgirl said:
Any detailers in the SF Bay Area?

Yesterday I left work to find my new black car (1 1/2 months) covered in gypsum dust & 4 contractors putting their weight into dry rags trying to scrub it off. Nooooooo!!! Needless to say, the paint is now a mess of scratches & swirl marks.

I've been using the 2 bucket wash method..nice microfiber towels....and on Sunday had just given it it's first clay, AIO and UPP job. (All learned from this site!! Thanks to all!) It was looking about as good as a new Toyota paint job could look on a rather less-than-sexy Prius.

So, now I am looking for recommendations on a detailer close to Oakland CA that can polish out the swirls/scratches (they all look to be in the clearcoat layer, so am hoping no repaint is necessary). Someone w/experience who's obsessive about shiny black paint!

(I hope I put this in the right forum - I searched past posts but could find nothing)

Thanks for any advice you all can give me!!
And, yes, the contractor agreed to pay for it.

Welcome to the site I'm in Sonoma County (I'm sure you know where I'm at) send me a PM and I will be happy to help in anyway....I feel your pain about the black car....I own one!
 
Poorboy said:
PM or call Beemerboy...he lives in your area , in obsessed with black cars and can probably fix your problems ...his cell # is available.

Thanks Steve but for posting my cell number you can include a free Nattys paste wax on the order you are going to send me:)
 
Beemerboy said:
Thanks Steve but for posting my cell number you can include a free Nattys paste wax on the order you are going to send me:)

sure :rolleyes: I thought you said you have free incoming calls :D
 
Tried to take some photos last night, but they turned out awful - you can barely see a thing. Will have to try again when the sun is out.

At any rate, thanks all for the advice!
(I'll be calling Beemerboy & go from there...)
 
mtbgirl said:
Tried to take some photos last night, but they turned out awful - you can barely see a thing. Will have to try again when the sun is out.

At any rate, thanks all for the advice!
(I'll be calling Beemerboy & go from there...)

You won't be disappointed if I have to say so myself....LOL

About the pics its real hard to get decent pics of swirls and the likes...lighting and just the right angle is key....and as you know we've not had a lot of sun here in NO CA lately
 
Followup with mtbgirl last night on the phone...appears that some construction workers where trying to clean off some gypsum...off her NEW black car with some dry towels....The plan of attack is we are going to talk next week about Thursday and see what the weather looks like...and hopefully get it taken care of on Saturday....She is a very cool person to talk to so welcome her to the site and lets see if we can get her washing and waxing her car:) :) :)
 
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