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warrmr

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Howdy Guys, 


 


It has been a very long time since I have frequented a detailing forum due to me being lazy and living in a flat so it makes it difficult to wash my car, whereas when I was living at home I had no problem spending 4 or 5 hours cleaning the car on a Saturday I just don't have the patience or the time to be spending that length of time on the car. 


 


Anyways I have recently purchased a shiny new(new to me) Fiesta Zetec which looks fab, the dealer has put a coat of Diamondbrite on the paint and fabric which according to the marketing speal is the most amazing thing since sliced bread; especially if this article is to be believed. The dealer has done a good job as all of the marks on the paint appear to have been buffed out (as seen under florescent lighting) but need to see it in some sunlight as I spotted a mark on the roof that looks like there is some hazing where the product has not been buffed off properly hopefully it is not under the sealant or the car will be going back for them to re-apply the Diamondbrite. 


 


I have been doing some research and have found the "ONR Method" where you don't have to rinse the car off so can get away with just 20 litres of water to clean a whole car so may give that a go the question is can I use the DiamondBrite conserver and shampoo with the ONR method as the information at this link mentions to add the ONR product with your normal shampoo. Will this work or will it leave nasty greasy marks as it is a wash and wax type product. 


 


Also is there any issue with applying Maguires #16 Mirror Glaze over the top of Diamondbrite as I understand you are not supposed to use any Polishes paint that has been protected or you will strip the protection off and have to re-seal it yourself or wax it regularly. I have heard that wax doesn't "stick" as well to Diamondbrited paint as well as untreated paint is this true and what effect would it have on any product. I understand it may not be as shiney as a pure polish and glaze. 


 


Does anyone have any experience with the Gtechniq G1 product and its application how easy is it to apply and do you need a warm day (will I have to wait until Spring/Summer) before I can apply as the information mentions that it is not recommended to be applied below 10 degrees and what if it rains after the first layer does this matter and can you pick up once it stops raining or will it ruin the application.


 


Lots of questions hope I don't get shot down to badly.


 


Here is a nice picture of my new toy sat waiting for me to pick her up.  


 


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Newbie mistake, sorry mods I think I have posted in the wrong section. 


 


Also what do you guys think about the Poorboys wheel sealant (pink stuff that smells like tuti fruti sweets.) Is it any good and how often will I have to apply, I have quite a bit left over from about 6 years ago if it is still any good and doesnt "go off"
 
First off, you probably made a mistake allowing the dealer to do anything cosmetically to the car. The hazing you are seeing is most likely buffer holograms, the sun is the best thing to check the paints, fluorescent lighting is too diffused to show defects very well. My guess is over the next month or two you will see more signs that the dealer didn't properly polish the car and you'll probably be better off repolishing the car and applying your own wax or sealant. 


 


ONR on its own, used as a rinseless wash works great. If you live where they salt the roads, pre-rinsing may be necessary. Or you can add ONR to a conventional wash soap and it will help soften the water so there is less chance of spotting.  


 


If the Poorboys stuff hasn't separated, it should work okay. Never used it so I can't comment on durability. 
 
Scottwax said:
First off, you probably made a mistake allowing the dealer to do anything cosmetically to the car. The hazing you are seeing is most likely buffer holograms, the sun is the best thing to check the paints, fluorescent lighting is too diffused to show defects very well. My guess is over the next month or two you will see more signs that the dealer didn't properly polish the car and you'll probably be better off repolishing the car and applying your own wax or sealant. 


 


ONR on its own, used as a rinseless wash works great. If you live where they salt the roads, pre-rinsing may be necessary. Or you can add ONR to a conventional wash soap and it will help soften the water so there is less chance of spotting.  


 


If the Poorboys stuff hasn't separated, it should work okay. Never used it so I can't comment on durability. 
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Thanks Scott, 


 


Last night under Street lighting (Sodium lamps) I noticed a bunch of swirls on the hood so I am starting to doubt that the dealer has prepared the paint for Diamondbrite so will probably end stripping and re-doing the car in the summer. 


 


Yeah the roads get pretty salty in the winter and apparently the council mixes the salt/grit mix with molasses to make it stick to the road better and prevent the rain from washing it away before the frost in the morning. So will pick up one of those garden sprayers to do a pre-rinse on the car and if its really mucky take it to the jet wash for a rinse(no brush).


 


With the ONR stuff which is better the Blue Wash and Shine or the Green Wash and Wax. 
 
Welcome to the forum, and one thing for Autopia is a certainty;  you will never get shot down by the regulars in here.  They are a bunch of good,  salt of the earth (haha) type folk.  I lurk more than I post, but there is a wealth of information to take in.


 


Having lived in the UK, and now living in Canada, I have found that there are many similarities not withstanding substantial differences in our respective winter driving conditions.  I've only recently seen the ONR light as I was too skeptical to try it in the past.  With my limited experience, I would pre-rinse using a Jet/power wash at a car wash before driving the car home and doing an ONR using the "Garry Dean" method as it is affectionately referred to here and else where (a quick search will yield many results).


 


I personally prefer the original blue Wash as it is easier to dry, and does not freeze to the paint as easily as compared to the green WW.  Our day time temps rarely get above freezing here for weeks on end during the winter, and I just find the WW takes longer to wash, dry and buff than the conventional stuff.  I want to spend as little time as possible outdoors when the weather is cold and snowy.


 


Welcome and enjoy your new wheels!


Asif
 
Warrmr, I am struggling to understand why you would be adding the ONR to the Diamondbrite


shampoo and cleaner.  I would wager that they sell this "conserver" to make sure that people do


not use harsh shampoos that will strip the Diamondbrite.  You wouldn't have this problem with ONR


(or "shouldn't"). 


 


The ONR can be added as a water softener, if you find that you are in an area of hard water, and you


don't get enough suds.  It also adds lubrication.


 


Using No Rinse by itself should not strip the Diamondbrite, and this will save you much time in the


long run.  For what I view is the quickest and safest No Rinse method, just search for the


Gary Dean Wash method.  It uses about One gallon of water per vehicle (total). 


This Gary Dean method is superior to the two bucket system, as it is always virgin surfaces that


are touching your vehicle's paint.


 


Is the Diamondbrite a rinse-less wash also?  If it is, then you "may" be able to use them together.


Otherwise, the ONR does not make any shampoo rinse-less by adding it to it.  You would get the help


of the polymers in ONR.
 
Thanks again, 


 


I think I have a plan of action now, 


 


I am going to stick with the ONR wash and relegate the Diaomndbrite shampoo and conserver to the shelf.


 


I have the below on order so should be good to try my first rinse less wash at the weekend. 


 


ONR Wash and Shine 


FinishKare #425 Polywipe


10 MF Towels 80:20


Gtechniq G1 Clearvision kit (G1, G2 and G4)


Wash Bucket + Grit Guard


Waffle Weave Glass towel (Microfibre)


 


That should keep me going until the summer when I will probably end up giving my wheels a deep clean and depending on the paint will probably remove the Diamondbrite and apply my own coating with a nice deep gloss. Im already itching to break out the DA and give it a good going over just have to keep telling myself save it for the summer. 
 
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