Need some bug help.

ScoobyDrew06

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I did my first detail yesterday on my new car, which is also my first detail after becoming an autopia member. I put 2k miles on the car before I had a chance to wash and wax, so my paint was not well protected, it just had whatever the dealer had put on when I picked it up. So I had a lot of bugs on the front of my car, I used a citrus bug & tar remover and pinnacle's paint safe bug sponge. i got rid of all the bugs except there where a few spots that were orange in color (bug blood maybe?) I tried everything to get these off and I could not remove them, my paint is white so they stand out quite a bit. Is there some type of product that will remove this or will I have to use some type of abrasive polish to take down the paint a little with my PC. thanks in advance to anyone that helps me.
 
congrats on the new car, you are in the place for detailing advice. if nobody has the answer here, the question does not exist lol! did you try to clay the area that you are having a problem with? this is where I would start if you have not already.
 
washed, scrubbed with bug sponge with a bug remover, clayed, washed again, used more bug stuff, more bug sponge, washed again, pc w/ AIO as a cleaner, still did not come off. I couldn't feel the marks on the paint, but I could see them. They are now sealed under all my wax, so i won't be able to try to remove them until I need to reapply the wax again.
 
Hey ScoobyDrew:



Congrats on the new car. BTW, You forgot to tell us what kind.



Not sure where you live, but I experienced what I believe is the same thing here in NW TN. It was on my wife's car, a silver Infiniti G35. There were these little orangey/yellowish spots. When I tried to clean them some of it would come off and then there would be a small orange spot.

Like you, I tried the Pinnacle bug sponge and everything I had chemical wise. Nothing seemed to reduce them. :hairpull SO! I tried some SSR1 which made the surface really slick and shiny but did not remove the spot. I ended up using an orange CMA pad and SSR2.5 speed 5 and 6 and about 3 tries. It was amazing how hard it was to remove this stuff. I finally got them down to a level that was acceptable and stopped there. The paint was getting warm if that tells you anything.



I did notice that in the right light before I polished them off with the SSR2.5 that you could see the spot. It looked like a clear drop of syrup with the orange spot in the middle. Visualize a small drop of pancake syrup that spreads out and then hardens. Only it was about as hard as epoxy.



Anyone else that has experienced this and found the mystery chemical to remove, let me know.



Thanks,

Ray
 
Those are rust blooms. A claybar and some time should take care of them.



sorry, reread the post and i see that you clayed. I actually had that happen to me once when I left my front end mask on too long. I tried AIO and it didn't work. I left it alone and the next time it was gone.
 
I've had those spots on my white Maxima and my silver Protege. I've been able to remove most of them with AIO and a green pad, but there is one on my Protege's hood that is not going anywhere. It refuses to come out, regardless of what I do. It was there before I bought the car, so it was probably baked on for years...who knows.



The best thing you can do is just try to prevent this from happening in the future. Get a couple layers of some LSP on there, so that the bug guts don't come in contact with the paint. I hope you don't have any permanent bug spots on your brand new car. :(
 
Mine were'nt rust blooms. I know what you are talking about and these were definitely from some type of bug guts. You could catch them in the correct light and see that there was a definite spot. My syrup analogy is the best way I could describe it. The infiniti had 2 layers of Wolfgang on the hood. But this bug just ate through everything and decided to make it's last mark on this world on the hood of our car.



BTW, speaking of rust blooms, wife and I were at the Chevy dealer and were looking at vehicles. There was a white Avalanche which I know had been on the lot for at least 6months. It had rust blooms all over the place. It was so bad I think it should have been repainted.



Later,

Ray
 
Rainman said:
Hey ScoobyDrew:



Congrats on the new car. BTW, You forgot to tell us what kind.



oh yea, it's an 05 aspen white wrx wagon. I've wanted one for about 5 years now so I have a huge smile on my face everytime I drive it.



as far as rust blooms go, This is on my front bumper only, which is plastic, don't really know what a rust bloom is, but I know plastic doesn't rust. What I have is definately from bugs because there were bugs over the spots that I was able to scrub off.



I used the AIO with a sonus das blue pad, was I supposed to use the green pad? That might have been my problem. I had asked someone about this before and they said the blue pad, but maybe they were wrong.



Thanks for the info so far.
 
The green pad is slightly more aggressive than the blue. You might want to try the green pad and see if that helps anything.



Rust blooms are little dots of rust that are caused by ferrous contamination embedded in the paint. Although plastic will not rust, the ferrous particles WILL. So you can (and most people do) have rust spots on your plastic bumpers.
 
ScoobyDrew06 said:
washed, scrubbed with bug sponge with a bug remover, clayed, washed again, used more bug stuff, more bug sponge, washed again, pc w/ AIO as a cleaner, still did not come off. I couldn't feel the marks on the paint, but I could see them. They are now sealed under all my wax, so i won't be able to try to remove them until I need to reapply the wax again.





Wow sorry to hear that the clay did not work for you. the blue Sonus pad is pretty mild. sounds like the green pad and AIO may help. let us know how it turns out. good luck
 
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