Need Klasse SG advice

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acbent

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Hi,



Yesterday, for the first time this year, I put my first coat of SG on and all went well. The paint was prepped well. EDIT: I applied AIO 2 days ago and yesterday I applied a very thin coat of SG with a microfiber applicator. It buffed off with no visible residue after sitting for about 1/2 hour. I did not require any detailing spray to assist in the removal.



Today I applied my second coat and about 1/2 hour after I applied it, it started to lightly mist rain. The van became completely soaked. So, have I ruined my second application of SG? Should I just wait until tomorrow and apply again, or have I compromised it to the point where I should start again with the AIO?



Just looking for suggestions...



Thanks in advance.



Adam
 
Hi Dan,



Thanks. When the mist started, I had already microfibered almost one side of the van. I kept going but I can't say that I got it all off as it was difficult to tell on the wet panels. The water is beading like crazy but I suppose that may be due to yesterday's application. On a positive note - I've used Klasse for a few years now - I'm now using foam filled microfiber applicators (ones that came with the Blackfire Crystal Seal I was trying out) as opposed to just a microfiber towel and I can control the application much better. Buffing off now is a joke unlike before when I would nearly wear my arm out or have apply my quick detailer (watered down SG).



Always looking for hints/suggestions, so if you think of any - other than don't Klasse in the rain, lol, I'm all ears.





Thanks again!
 
Extract from a 'way back when' article-



Detailers Tips



1. Apply KAIO using water-dampened applicator, and then spray the applicator with Sonus Spritz.

2. Apply Klasse products very thinly using absolute minimum pressure on the applicator.

3. Everything in a straight line, circular movements only add to swirl marks.

4. Spray the vehicle surface very lightly with Sonus Spritz between each Sealant Glaze ‘layer’.

5. Use a slightly damp 100% cotton towel to wipe the surface followed by a dry 100% cotton towel to remove Sealant Glaze

6. I cannot emphasise ‘apply products very sparingly’ enough.

7. Schnell-alternate: (Klasse Wash) Wash vehicle, apply "All-in-One" to entire vehicle while it’s still wet using a damp 100% cotton towel, re-wash, rinse, and dry vehicle.

8. As a quick detailer mix a 3:1 solution of Sealant Glaze and Sonus Spritz, spray onto a 100% cotton towel and apply lightly to paint film surface.

9. The secret to the application of a polymer product is to apply it thin (super thin) Fill a spray bottle and mist a non-abrasive foam pad for application.

10. The wipe on – wipe off (WOWO) method works for KSG



Notes



1. Product can be applied by hand or machine (Cyclo Polisher or a Porter-Cable random orbital buffer) best results are obtained with machine application

2. Klasse SG can be diluted (3:1 SG / distilled water (makes for easier residue removal)

3. Ease of product removal is inversely proportional to the amount used

4. If there are stubborn spots (usually because too much SG was used, fill a spray bottle with a 4:1 solution of distilled water / SG and lightly spray the panel and buff. After you're done, keep the bottle around and use as a QD.

5. Sonus Acrylic spritz (Autopia.org) a perfect complement to the AIO /KSG system - it’s a QD for acrylic sealants

6. A 3:1 solution of Distilled water Klasse SG, use this immediately following (conventional) wash as a wipe on/wipe off. It serves as a rejuvenator and the application is very quick like a QD.

7. Klasse is an acrylic resin coating, it's not a petroleum silicate, or water-based product, and acrylic’s when they cross-link form a hard shell. Petroleum distillates will remove polymer sealants but not acrylic so a Carnauba wax can be applied to produce a deep ‘jetting’ (the so called ‘wet-look’)

8. An ideal last step product (LSP) for metallic paint is Pinnacle Signature Series Carnauba / Polymer wax
 
Eh, I've let KSG sit for *days* and if anything it buffed off *easier*. And I agree with Dan that the rain probably didn't affect it at all.
 
Cool. Sounds like you already know about the "detailer", ie watered down KSG. I've gotten pretty decent durability with just that on bare paint actually. I do the KSG 3-6 times and then just follow with the 3-1 KSG after each wash, seems to last indefinitely. KSG is great stuff for certain paints/colors.
 
Thank you all for the great advice. It does appear that the rain had little effect. Maybe it washed away the residue. I applied another coat earlier. This time I let it sit for well over an hour. Like you Dan, I think I'll apply at least 3 coats, probably 4 or 5. I plan to follow my routine of detailing with a watered down SG solution. I have always loved the way the Klasse Twins make for a super slick glossy paint finish. It certainly makes washing a breeze. I can't say enough about how easily KSG comes off so easily when applied with a MF applicator. Sadly it's calling for rain tomorrow again, so the '12 Elantra will have to wait for its Klasse treatment. I have managed to avoid swirl marks - for the most part - on this car, so the Klasse will really look good. Can't wait! Thanks again!



Edit: Oh yeah, I had forgotten what a beautiful job SG does on trim. Pics to follow...hopefully.
 
Pic...Not bad for a van that was neglected for a few years before we bought it. Zero rust as I drill, spray and undercoat with Rust Check every year.



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acbent- That's looking good :xyxthumbs



Yeah, I used KSG x 6 on my silver minivan, trim and all. Doing the jambs for the sliding doors, took a bit of doing...
 
Accumulator said:
acbent- That's looking good :xyxthumbs



Yeah, I used KSG x 6 on my silver minivan, trim and all. Doing the jambs for the sliding doors, took a bit of doing...
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Thank you! I'm trying to convince my wife that a DA polisher is a good investment. The paint on my van is in pretty good shape for a daily driver. It does have swirl marks but I think the SG does a pretty good job of hiding them - or so it seems. I really want to try my first polish this summer. I've been looking at the PC 7424Xp and Meguiars Ultimate Compound. Being a wet behind the ears newbie, I picked up some Ultimate polish and tried a small section by hand with a mf towel to no avail. I scrubbed like a demon but it did nothing for removing swirl marks. It was nice and shiny though.



As to my door jams, I did them with AIO earlier. It's a fairly big cleaning job for me after the winter as there's a fair bit of rust protection residue to clean off. I think maybe I'll follow your lead though and do a coat of SG or two in there.
 
Check out the Griots DA, IMO better than the PCXP and it has a much better warranty.
 
I have come up with a method for 'quick detailing' my van using KSG. If anyone else has thought of this idea before, I will gladly cede credit to them. And if it is deemed a bad idea, I will also accept the credit bow my head in shame...



I got a small container of clean tap water - later I will use distilled which I can buy for $1.09/gal at the IGA - and soaked one of my MF applicators in it. I then squeezed most of the water out of it and put a dime sized drop of KSG on it, folded it over several times to blend the product into the applicator. It took me about 10 seconds to do the large sliding door of our van. Immediately after I applied it, I buffed it off with a clean, dry MF towel. I just repeated the process for the other panels; resoaking the applicator and applying a dot of SG. The result was, not to be too dramatic, breathtaking. The surface is so smooth and has a deep glossy appearance.



For me this is much easier than spraying a mixture of SG and water onto the panel. It allows me much more control.



just thought I'd share my, new to me, approach.



Adam
 
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